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Postby neil » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:25 pm

Ah, the recreation zone ???  gone hardcore meself. :cool:
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Postby Paul C » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:28 pm

neil wrote:Ah, the recreation zone ???  gone hardcore meself. :cool:

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Postby JBG » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:45 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:As far as PC games go, I only ever really got into Sim City, Dungeon keeper and Champ. Man. so that's probably why I never got on well with the box.

I think I could be called a hard core gamer in that I always build a state of the art PC every 18 months and I have about 300-400 games in total, mostly on the PC but also a few for the PS1 and PS2.

I have played many games on consoles and my experience is that the majority are drivel. Even marque games such as Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid can be p.iss poor but get away with it because console gamers don't know any better.

I recently bought Metal Gear Solid 2 and got bored as I had to wait  approximately 45 minutes to get to a playable section of the game as all it was was FMV sequences and interactive movies. Console gamers think this is great, but a lot of console games have you looking at hours of movie sequences for your £45.

Compare this to the PC where we currently have brilliant shoot em ups like F.E.A.R doing the rounds, with great titles like Sin Episodes and Oblivion just around the corner.

The Xbox 360 is closer to the PC than the other consoles as it has PC type games like Call of Duty 2, but its still a console and for me, that can mean that by and large, the games are :censored:. I bought Fable recently for the PC which is a conversion of an Xbox hit, and it has inherited a god awful console type save game system.

Nintendo definitely make interesting games and I am considering buying a Gamecube now that they are very cheap, as Nintendo focuses more on gameplay than flashy titles like Sony and Microsoft.
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Postby neil » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:49 pm

neil wrote:I have alot of time for games and people who play them though I dont like pc gamer snobbery

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Postby Mikz » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:22 pm

I agree Jbg, I have a gamecube and The likes of Mario Kart,Resident evil 4 , Zelda are fantastically smooth and well made. Its probably the best consul Ive ever played for all roundivity :D
The only let down is -theres very few games for it now. One wee section in Game it gets with a handful of titles.  :down:
I tried ebay too, and there was nothing ...just shows - when you have a good game ,you never wanna part with it.
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Postby woof woof ! » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:47 pm

JBG wrote:Good debate here on really nerdy stuff. :laugh:

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just thinking to myself , with the time they spend in here,the time they spend watching footy and the time they apparently spend playing games do any of these f'uckers actually have a job and or wife /partner ?   :D   :D   :D  .
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Postby dawson99 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:49 pm

im only on here during work, and my xbox is broken, so i just get drunk... if there was a game on that on a pc id rock
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Postby The Ace1983 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:14 pm

JBG - Your last statement perfectly defines the two types of gamers that opperate in today's market. I seem to be the opposite to you in terms of what I like in games.

For me, whenever I play a PC game, I can't escape the fact that I'm sitting at a computer, typing on a key-board. And since I'm an escapist, I prefer a controller (particularly the NGC controller) which allows me to relax enough to forget I'm only playing a game. I know I could just get a PC controller, but the keyboard would still be there.

PC games also have a habit of being slow, in terms of gameplay and this annoys me. I like fast, frantic, "EXTREME!!!" games that excite instantly. Also, as previously mentioned, I enjoy games I can play with my mates over a couple of cans and some laughs. Mario Kart, Donkey Konga, Smash Bros., various EA titles and Super Monkey Ball are great entertainment when you're drunk.

I also have serious issues with games that try to be TOO real. Until we have fully functional VR, games will always feel like games, so where's the point in trying to make them as realistic as possible. When you play a game where you're driving a perfectly rendoured Lamborghini it's great, but when you put the controller down and switch off, you have to face reality. A reality where you don't have a lambourghini and it's always a little dissapointing. The game "Killer 7" gained so much by being cell-shaded. It became twice as dark and three times as fun because you were made to accept it as a game. It's quite hard to explain really.

I was brought up to be a console gamer, and a console gamer I shall always be. I want something I can just pick up and play, something that is there to excite rather than test and something that is geared solely towards entertainment. Consoles may not be THE future, but they are my future.
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Postby neil » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:23 pm

can't be arsed leaving that post here, when I read it back I may have sounded like a :censored:. woof woof can think what he wants.
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Postby Sabre » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:38 pm

I have few time to play now, but the time I use to play games is the time that I don't watch the telly. I just watch the news on the telly and little else. It's :censored:, and you just receive :censored: , at least with games you do something.

Girlfriend quits a lot of time, but to be honest, the one I'm now with is not that possesive like the previous one, so I still have time to play from time to time. But I just play old games, because I don't have 8 hours to start playing a Civilization game.
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Postby Mikz » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:53 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
JBG wrote:Good debate here on really nerdy stuff. :laugh:

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just thinking to myself , with the time they spend in here,the time they spend watching footy and the time they apparently spend playing games do any of these f'uckers actually have a job and or wife /partner ?   :D   :D   :D  .

Its called modern day relationships. My wifes a better gamer than me ,shes just cleared resident evil 4 on hard mode and both my kids are mad enthusiasts ,even the wee girl lol The days are long, and too boring to be talking about "what big Marthas doing next door" :D
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Postby JBG » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:54 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:PC games also have a habit of being slow, in terms of gameplay and this annoys me. I like fast, frantic, "EXTREME!!!" games that excite instantly. Also, as previously mentioned, I enjoy games I can play with my mates over a couple of cans and some laughs. Mario Kart, Donkey Konga, Smash Bros., various EA titles and Super Monkey Ball are great entertainment when you're drunk.

Quake 4 and F.E.A.R have blistering action sequences and there are parts of Half Life 2 which can cause motion sickness.

I'm not knocking all console games but I own a PS2 and I can think of only 3 or 4 games for that machine that I'd bother buying, whereas on the PC there are 3 or 4 games being released in March that I'll buy.
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Postby Paul C » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:50 pm

JBG wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:As far as PC games go, I only ever really got into Sim City, Dungeon keeper and Champ. Man. so that's probably why I never got on well with the box.

I think I could be called a hard core gamer in that I always build a state of the art PC every 18 months and I have about 300-400 games in total, mostly on the PC but also a few for the PS1 and PS2.

I have played many games on consoles and my experience is that the majority are drivel. Even marque games such as Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid can be p.iss poor but get away with it because console gamers don't know any better.

I recently bought Metal Gear Solid 2 and got bored as I had to wait  approximately 45 minutes to get to a playable section of the game as all it was was FMV sequences and interactive movies. Console gamers think this is great, but a lot of console games have you looking at hours of movie sequences for your £45.

Compare this to the PC where we currently have brilliant shoot em ups like F.E.A.R doing the rounds, with great titles like Sin Episodes and Oblivion just around the corner.

The Xbox 360 is closer to the PC than the other consoles as it has PC type games like Call of Duty 2, but its still a console and for me, that can mean that by and large, the games are :censored:. I bought Fable recently for the PC which is a conversion of an Xbox hit, and it has inherited a god awful console type save game system.

Nintendo definitely make interesting games and I am considering buying a Gamecube now that they are very cheap, as Nintendo focuses more on gameplay than flashy titles like Sony and Microsoft.

I agree with what your saying JBG, I use my mac to stream images and itunes wielessly to my 360 which is something I love, the 360 is more than just a console, the thing I love about the 360 is the 'feel' of the unser interface, things like private chat rooms, comparing games, downloading demos and the 'dashboard' in general, yeah ok the PC can play online but it doesn't have a proper community like Xbox Live allowing you to see what games your 'friends' play, etc.

I love my 360 and it will never become a Dreamcast or Jaguar because of two words BILL GATES (money) :;):
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Postby woof woof ! » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:17 am

neil wrote:can't be arsed leaving that post here, when I read it back I may have sounded like a :censored:. woof woof can think what he wants.

Don't get upset lad , just havin' a laugh .I love pc games , just don't have as much time as some to play them is all .
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Postby The Ace1983 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:36 am

JBG wrote:
The Ace1983 wrote:PC games also have a habit of being slow, in terms of gameplay and this annoys me. I like fast, frantic, "EXTREME!!!" games that excite instantly. Also, as previously mentioned, I enjoy games I can play with my mates over a couple of cans and some laughs. Mario Kart, Donkey Konga, Smash Bros., various EA titles and Super Monkey Ball are great entertainment when you're drunk.

Quake 4 and F.E.A.R have blistering action sequences and there are parts of Half Life 2 which can cause motion sickness.

I'm not knocking all console games but I own a PS2 and I can think of only 3 or 4 games for that machine that I'd bother buying, whereas on the PC there are 3 or 4 games being released in March that I'll buy.

But for me, I only buy 1 or 2 pc games a year because they seem like a lot of effort, and less fun than conole games. And I can think of at least 50 NGC games that I wouldn't feel right about not having, about 10 PS2 games and Halo 1 and 2 as well. PC games seem to run together.
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