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Postby redshade » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:18 pm

Wilder boxing intelligence is non existent, I agree. Just a solid devine right hand which can change the fight anytime. He was poor against Ortiz and still managed to Ko him.

I think he got tired quid because he beefed up for this fight and was using a lot of energy in the beginning rounds.

Fury is on another level, performance was not fantastic but getting up for two kos and then knocking him to the canvas twice was remarkable. I enjoy watching fury fights.
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Postby kazza » Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:17 am

I agree, I just think a proper boxer with proper boxing skills would beat Fury. I think we haven’t seen a proper heavyweight champion since Lennox Lewis, there are no great heavyweights out there. There have been great heavyweights over the years but this era hasn’t had any. The fact that both Fury and Ruiz, two fat fighters, can be world champions says a lot about this era.
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Postby redshade » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:35 pm

Fat fighters lol, to be fair mate Fury is a talented boxer, unorthodox with good boxing intelligence.
Usyk would give Fury a very good fight, both technically skilled.

Fury got 3 times knocked out by the untalented boxer Wilder but to be fair Wilder has 40+ Kos. His Devine right can KO anyone.
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Postby kazza » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:27 pm

redshade » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:35 pm wrote:Fat fighters lol, to be fair mate Fury is a talented boxer, unorthodox with good boxing intelligence.
Usyk would give Fury a very good fight, both technically skilled.

Fury got 3 times knocked out by the untalented boxer Wilder but to be fair Wilder has 40+ Kos. His Devine right can KO anyone.

I don’t mean to underestimate him as he is talented. He is huge (6ft 7), surprisingly quick, as you say he has boxing intelligence and a winning mentality but I still feel like a proper heavyweight will beat him. I haven’t been excited about heavyweights since the days of Mike Tyson.
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Postby Eagle » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:51 pm

Tyson Fury is 6 ft 9 in but shows the skills and the speed of a middle weight at times. His performance against Klitschko was masterful. He's isn't a big puncher for a heavyweight but he's technical ability is up there with the best heavyweights of all time. Fury has been boxing since he was a kid while Joshua and Wilder came late to the game and it shows. Usyk is also extremely skillful and Joshua has no chance of out boxing him like he did in the second fight against Ruiz. He's only hope is to come in heavy and knock Usyk out in the first half of the fight but I just think Usyk is too skillful and intelligent for him.
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Postby kazza » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:27 am

Just watched that ridiculous sham called the Fury v Paul fight. Obviously I never paid for that as I watched a hacked channel but my God, a couple of very average boxers getting millions, fight was not even entertaining. I never actually watched Paul fight before and I cannot believe he as reached where he has on pure hype and social media manipulation. Boxing has become a joke if that is a pay-per-view event.
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Postby redshade » Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:01 pm

kazza » Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:27 am wrote:Just watched that ridiculous sham called the Fury v Paul fight. Obviously I never paid for that as I watched a hacked channel but my God, a couple of very average boxers getting millions, fight was not even entertaining. I never actually watched Paul fight before and I cannot believe he as reached where he has on pure hype and social media manipulation. Boxing has become a joke if that is a pay-per-view event.



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I can quite get the influencer part, I just don't like when both worlds collide. I think for entertainment purposes these " influencers" should stick with each other. Their fights, rivalries are just for entertainment, because they have a big following on social media. However, when they crossover to actual fighter I feel it defeats the purpose. That is why it is looked at in a negative angle at the moment.

For a laugh I watch some of their events and I am aware of who a lot of them are, so it can be quite entertaining. Ksi events are pretty entertaining with his production of misfits.
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Postby redshade » Fri May 17, 2024 9:01 pm

Anyone going to watch Fury vs Usyk?

Thoughts....
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Postby kazza » Sat May 18, 2024 6:33 am

I’ll watch it since it will be free  :cool:

The old saying goes that a good big fighter will always beat a good little fighter. You have a true heavyweight against a true cruiser weight and you would think that Fury will win this. I am absolutely over the Fury show and a sad indictment of boxing that he is the “best there is”. I hope he gets knocked out and we never have to see him or his horrible family again.
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Postby devaney » Sun May 19, 2024 7:21 am

Great result for Usyk. Brilliant tactician. Fury was very lucky the fight didn’t get stopped in the 8th round. Never been a Fury fan. Feckin awful collection of people. To think that Fury‘s father only regret in life was gouging somebody’s eyes out speaks volumes. In reality, it was probably the prison sentence that he regretted rather than the gouging !! Best thing about the result was that I didn’t have to listen to the annoying fecker sing  :laugh:
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Postby kazza » Sun May 19, 2024 12:47 pm

Everything about Fury is freakishly weird. He looks weired, he has a weird body, he acts weird and even when he was out on his feet he looked weird, I thought he was play acting. Even from a boxing point of view he looks weird, he has a fast snappy jab that just looks strange. Im not into these stupid ring walks also, we want to see them fight, not dance and sing… ridiculous really.

Was a good fight to watch though.

I will add that it is an indictment on boxing that these two are the best in the world, the 37 year old beat the 35 year old. A lot of marketing and a lot of picking fights.
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Postby Reg » Tue May 21, 2024 5:02 pm

Couldn't be bothered to watch it, there hasn't been a decent heavyweight boxing match since Lennox Lewis hung up his gloves. I hoped Joshua would be someone to recreate some credibility but it seems he enjoys the lifestyle more than fighting. Looks like the heavyweight division is doomed to stay in the doldrums for a few more years.
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Postby redshade » Tue May 21, 2024 8:41 pm

Enjoyed that fight, don't know how Fury thinks he won lol, definitely the KO had an affect.

Usyk is tough as nails, waited and punished Fury in the right moment.
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Postby electrum » Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:12 am

Joshua got battered at the weekend and is making noises about carrying on.

He is one more good hiding away from permanent damage- he took some awful punishment from Dubois..time to hang up his gloves imo.
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Postby redshade » Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:27 pm

He looked very poor, low hands and chin up leaving perfect gaps for a good smack. He definitely was underestimating Dubois, I think he should hang up his gloves now. However, wouldn't be surprised if he goes for a final pay day.
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