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[NiftyNeil]

A good win. It's always a shame to see a legend boxing on for too long. Khan can achieve good things with Freddie Roach though.

[Madmax]

great day today first liverpool thrash mannure and then khan wins against barrera... Was a decent fight khan looked really good. Gutted the way the fight ended though wanted it to last the whole 12 rounds or wanted to see a knockout. 100% certain that is barrera didnt get that gash he would have carried on the full rounds. I firmly believe khan wouldnt have knocked him out but would have won on points he looked really good. Khan has learnt alot since his loss against prescott. You see him now keeping a good guard and great defensive work.
Keep up the good work khan and hopefully you will suceed and improve even more!!!!!

[Mikz]

my favourite boxer was dave 'boy' green. a real gutsy fighter back in the 80's. he had the lot for me -desire,heart, never say die attitude. top bloke who gave his all every fight he had. i really could relate to him as his alround work ethic is what it's all about, when pinned to the ropes or when down get back up & keep fighting till the end,(the LFC way) i will always believe that is the only mindset to have & over the years LFC have demonstrated that as well as he did.

i love boxing but never heard of him.

somebody  mentioned leonard, great skills (personally I edge roy jones ahead of him due to knock out power) but I carried a grudge against leonard for many years as he beat the only boxer i ever loved (in a non jailhouse way) marvin hagler and I will never acknowledge he deserved the decision.

i don't know anything about minter except hagler beat him. how good was he, or finnegan. I hear conte was most talented british fighter ever but probably didn't have discipline.

I loved both Leonard and Roy Jones , but Id have Leonard ahead simply because of the better class of competition he had to beat at that time. I think Roys hardest fights where Hopkins and that mouth James Toney compared to the likes of Duran Hearns Hagler of the Leonard day.
Agree with the Hagler fight tho. It shouldve been a draw.

[Ace Ventura]

Watched the boxing last night meself, was a bit bevvied after watching the old trafford rout earlier in the day 

Khan looked decent but it was bad to see Barerra still going on fighting like that.
Should of retired before now, to be fair to Warren he got this match spot on because despite Barerra being nowhere near the same fighter as in the past, profile wise its a major scalp for Khan.
It wasnt enough of a test to know whether there is still something there for him though as Barerra offered no threat to his questionable defence.

The macaranelli knock out was a big shock, i have never heard of the other fella but that was some ko.
The thing is with him as well is it wasnt just like Khans against Prescott where he got caught cold or something, this was later in the fight and he always looked dangerous.
Think thats it for Enzo at world level now.

What was with Nicky Cook coming into the ring in all man u gear 

Does he support them or was it just cos it was in the MEN ?

Either way i was made up to see him get ko'd as well after that.

All in all best Sat in years for me.

[Ace Ventura]

This is good news for boxing fans i think.

OFF THE BEEB



HAYE - KLITSCHKO AGREED

Britain's David Haye will challenge Wladimir Klitschko for his IBF and WBO heavyweight titles on 20 June.

Following around four months of protracted negotiations, contracts were finally signed on Wednesday evening.

The venue is "90%" certain to be in Germany, Haye said. "It is not nailed yet, but everything else is agreed."

The 28-year-old Londoner, a former undisputed cruiserweight world champion, has only fought as a heavyweight twice before.

Wladimir's manager Bernd Boente said he had had "four different venue offers in Germany", which he had whittled down to one, and three more within Europe.

"I'm so pleased we've finally managed to get this fight on," said Haye, who has won 22 of his 23 fights, with 21 knockouts.

I feel I've been sent by all the great heavyweights of yesteryear to clean up and save the heavyweight division

David Haye

"Klitschko's last opponents were cowards and I will knock him out and take his belts back to London. I guarantee I'll knock him out in spectacular fashion. I'm his worst nightmare.

"That's not all, I will also go and get Vitali [Wladimir's older brother, who holds the WBC title] belt. None of them can stop me. The new world heavyweight champion will soon be David Haye.

"I'm taking this fight to save boxing. I'm doing this for Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier and all the other great, smaller heavyweights of the past.

"I feel as though I've been sent by all the great heavyweights of yesteryear to clean up and save the heavyweight division.

"I'm a man on a mission to save boxing from this Eastern European invasion of Ivan Drago clones. The clean-up operation starts with Wladimir on 20 June."

606: DEBATE
Fair play to Haye. It's never easy going to the lion's den and trying to wrestle his dinner away from him and this will be no different

Johnson Klute

Ukrainian Wladimir, who has 52 wins and three losses, with 46 knockouts, replied: "I am used to being attacked by my opponents before a fight, but David is top of the list of crudity.

"He has to pay the price for it and I promise it will be painful."

Haye, who knocked out veteran American heavyweight Monte Barrett in November, had been due to meet Vitali, who, at 37, is four years Wladimir's senior.

But Vitali opted to take on mandatory challenger Juan Carlos Gomez of Cuba instead.

However, Wladimir, who is marginally smaller than his brother and who has been knocked out three times, had always been Haye's preferred target.

Wladimir, who won gold at the 1996 Olympics, won his first world heavyweight title in October 2000, when he beat American Chris Byrd to claim the WBO crown.

However, South African Corrie Sanders knocked him out in two rounds in 2003 before American Lamon Brewster stopped him the following year. He had previously been stopped by journeyman Ross Purity in 1998.

Wladimir claimed the IBF title with a rematch win over Byrd in 2006, gained revenge over Brewster in 2007 and reclaimed the WBO title with a unanimous decision over Sultan Ibragimov in 2008.

His last fight was a seventh-round stoppage of former world champion Hasim Rahman last December.

Haye's only defeat came against fellow Briton Carl Thompson in 2004, when he was stopped in the fifth round.

But he beat Frenchman Jean Marc Mormeck in Paris to claim the undisputed cruiserweight crown in 2007, before destroying Welshman Enzo Maccarinelli last March.


I am not sure on how i think it will go as Haye's chin isnt great and if he gets caught then its goodnight vienna.
But neither is Klitchsko's having been ko'd 3 times.
Obviously its a major step up for Haye though in terms of ability and size really having only fought at heavyweight once.


Cant see Haye winning this really if Klitschko just stays behind his long reach and jab, but if Haye can get inside and put him under pressure then you never know.

[NANNY RED]

I was talking to him last week Ace he wants to rent my brother inlaws house in Cyprus so he can move all his family over there , thats where his training camp is he trains an lives most of the time in Northern Cyprus,

I honestly dont rate him though nice lad but not one of the best heavywieght ive seen ,but you never know

[Ace Ventura]

I was talking to him last week Ace he wants to rent my brother inlaws house in Cyprus so he can move all his family over there , thats where his training camp is he trains an lives most of the time in Northern Cyprus,

I honestly dont rate him though nice lad but not one of the best heavywieght ive seen ,but you never know

Watched some of the boxing on setanta last week, the Dodson-Quigley bill (although havent watched that fight yet)
It was a decent bill that for the Echo arenas first show.
Enjoyed the Watson-Gethin fight and David Price's KO punch was a cracker.

Not sure if you caught any of it ?

Anyway Haye was there and he was saying that he will be sparring with Price as he is 6,8 so even taller than Klitschko.

I cant see Haye winning really, just too much difference in size added to the fact that Haye struggled to take shots at cruiserweight.
But as you said you never know, he does have power himself, and it will be good to watch.

You move in some interesting circles you Nanny 

[Fowler_E7]

should be a good watch that fight Hayes mathces are usually entertaining. He always go's for the knockout and gets the crowd going, however this will be a tough nut to crack, Klitscho is huge and will stay on the defensive to stay aways from hayes big punches so i wouldnt be suprised if haye lost on points or alternatively he could lose every round then land with a huge punch and take the title that way, could go either way this one.

[Big Niall]

why isn't the froch fight on television? he is a world champion and fighting jermaine taylor in the states.

british tv has given him feck all publicity but I really rate the guy.

[stmichael]

Can't wait for the Hatton fight now. The biggest of the year without any doubt. I keep changing my mind about the outcome aswell. The more I think about it the more I think Pacqiauo will knock him out.

I'm gonna be completely knackered by Sunday night. Going to the Riverside to watch Boro-United, then will probably be drinking all day. Real-Barca in the evening followed by a lock in for the boxing. Then off to the game on Sunday. Thank God I'm not driving is all I can say.

[Big Niall]

anybody see froch beat taylor - stopped him with just 14 seconds left and was behind on points. a real classic. It is on youtube

[Ace Ventura]

anybody see froch beat taylor - stopped him with just 14 seconds left and was behind on points. a real classic. It is on youtube

Full fight was on itv on Sunday mate.
I watched it, and thought Froch was poor for most of the fight.
Far too slow and not throwing enough actual combinations.
To be fair Taylor looked sharp and is a dangerous counter puncher so you can sort of see why he was like that but Taylor had moved up in weight so you would have thought that Froch would have bullied him a bit more.

Was impressed with Frochs chin though, the knock down was more on the top of the head, but the uppercut he took in the eleventh would have put most fighters down.
The last round he did what he said he would so credit where it is due but if Taylor had been able to hold on he would have lost his title.

No idea why the fight wasnt on any channel but was happy enough to watch it on the Sunday as i wouldnt have stayed up to watch it anyway.

Cant wait for sat/sun now though !

[Madmax]

yeah watched that fight and agree froch was fairly poor.. Was a decent bout though.

[NiftyNeil]

I haven't seen much of Froch, but what I have seen doesn't impress me.

[Ace Ventura]

I haven't seen much of Froch, but what I have seen doesn't impress me.

If Calzaghe could be bothered he would be far too fast for Froch, Taylor was and he doesnt have the same speed and movement as Joe.
As Froch can clearly take a shot and can bang a bit he would make sure the fight went the distance with some slight interest.
But i think it would be a comprehensive points win for the welshman.

Cant see it happening anyway tbh.