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Postby Effes » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:34 pm

Reg wrote:I´d like to think we´re in a strong position but from exxperience I´d say its no more than 50-50 at best, if not 40-60 against us.

No way Reg - England are 1-4 with Bet 365 and Australia 7-2.

That seems about right.
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Postby bigmick » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:01 am

To be perfectly honest if England declared overnight (I'm not suggesting they do it obviously) I don't think Australia would be favourites to get what was left for them (about 230). England ought really to be able to get another 70 or so at least, and 300 on there batting fourth would be just about ungettable I think. If Panesar was playing as well, 200 would be ungettable as you'd just park the spinners at both ends and crowd the bat. Australia's only hope IMHo is to bowl England out sharpish (and leave themselves 270-290 to win) and then come out all guns blazing. If one guy can get a big score (even 80 or so) and they can get close enough to make England nervous (within about 200 should do it :D ) then it might be closer than it ought to be.

If we do win though it'll be a strange one, as I think Australia have conclusively proven they are the slightly better of two average to reasonable teams. Their batsman have been better, their bowlers have been better and they have fought better. Us winning four tosses to one has been massively significant, as has the the fact that they've been on the end of nearly all the bad umpiring decisions. Having watched the series avidly, I'd give us around a two in ten chance of beating them in a five match series, and it maybe we are about to see one of em.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:19 am

i still think this could go either way, if we manage to put one good partnership together then i think we`ll do it.

Reg mate i just hope your wrong
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Postby Reg » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:11 am

Would you swop The Ashes for 5-0 against Villa ?  ???
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Postby Judge » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:17 am

i'd have both
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Postby Effes » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:07 am

This is proving a belter of a bowling pitch.

234 ahead with just 3 wickets down in the 2nd innings, a massive lead.

Basically, as Mick said, whoever won the toss for this last test wins it.
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Postby mistyred » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:26 pm

Reg wrote:Would you swop The Ashes for 5-0 against Villa ?  ???

5-0 Against Viila, it's more enjoyable and takes 90mins of pure adrenaline whatching the up's and downs of football.

Crickets bloody boring and takes day's, wat the hell's that all about  :D


But i hope they win the finger and thumb trophy though


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Postby Effes » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:42 pm

Good start by Strauss and Trott - I think they can afford to loosen up a little now.
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Postby bigmick » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:17 pm

Provided England don't have a mad couple of hours where they decide to bowl short for no apparant reason (which lets be honest is entirely possible) it should be a formality from here. Unfortunately, we continue to cover ourseleves in the opposite to glory though where sportsmanship is concerned. Ponting gets one in the kisser while at short leg, bounces up and is spitting blood out without so much as a whimper, and fecking dickheads in the crowd are cheering. Cricket used to be one of the final bastions, the final frontier of tidemarks where w@nk jobs, t0ss pots and toolpieces hadn't quite manageds to permeate. Unfortunately, it seems that even there their combined chaverosity has finally won the day :( .
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Postby andy_g » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:33 pm

agree with you there, mick. but i actually believe it was the aussies who started it

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Postby Greavesie » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:50 pm

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'Bout the glory, round the Fields of Anfield Road

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Postby Dundalk » Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:58 pm

Thank God that's all over
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Postby Number 9 » Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:02 pm

Dundalk wrote:Thank God that's all over

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Postby Ben Patrick » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:43 pm

Absolutely brilliant !!!!
Sabre looks like a big lezzer
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Postby babu » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:01 am

Well Done Ingerland.


Damnit.
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