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[Judge]

s@int and his mate doing the dirty deed

[maypaxvobiscum]

is there, such a thing in the UK where you sign on for the army, and the army sponsors your degree?
like...they will give you benefits and expenses but once you're done with that degree you have to serve a bond with them?
if so, Kharhaz would you consider that?

[Judge]

yes there is

[account deleted by request]

I think you may need a couple of "A" LEVELS to be considered though mate

[maypaxvobiscum]

yes true. either A Levels or a diploma of some sort. thats one way those unemployed could do with. its a win-win situation. you earn loads while getting paid to study and the army has more men.

[Number 9]

Insane idea. I can guarantee that certain councils will try to maintain a jobless quota to get services done on the cheap.  Why not get companies to take jobless on at the dole money and if they prove themselves then give them a full time job.  If not then feedback on why not etc so they have realistic expectations when applying for things

they had a similar thing in the 80s for young folk.

it was called the YTS - slave labour for next to nothing

Done me no harm mate,the first year of my apprenticeship was on YTP..I got £29.50 a week and had to hand half into the house!

But it was worth it now!
Dunno if they still have those youth trainig projects now!

[JoeTerp]

not sure how bad its getting over there but people are freaking out over here about the number of unemployed and its really not that bad. 5% isn't good but its nowhere near the 30%+ that America saw during the great depression.  Everyone is worried about the auto industry in Detriot going under. I say let them go under, those are TERRRRRRIBLY run companies, that make sh.it cars that aren't fuel efficient and nobody wants to buy then, and  on top of that they pay crrraaaaaazy over the top benefits and pensions to their current and former employees.

[account deleted by request]

Let them eat cake

[Judge]

Insane idea. I can guarantee that certain councils will try to maintain a jobless quota to get services done on the cheap.  Why not get companies to take jobless on at the dole money and if they prove themselves then give them a full time job.  If not then feedback on why not etc so they have realistic expectations when applying for things

they had a similar thing in the 80s for young folk.

it was called the YTS - slave labour for next to nothing

Done me no harm mate,the first year of my apprenticeship was on YTP..I got £29.50 a week and had to hand half into the house!

But it was worth it now!
Dunno if they still have those youth trainig projects now!

now your on 49.60 dole money and have to hand it all in to the household 

[Number 9]

Insane idea. I can guarantee that certain councils will try to maintain a jobless quota to get services done on the cheap.  Why not get companies to take jobless on at the dole money and if they prove themselves then give them a full time job.  If not then feedback on why not etc so they have realistic expectations when applying for things

they had a similar thing in the 80s for young folk.

it was called the YTS - slave labour for next to nothing

Done me no harm mate,the first year of my apprenticeship was on YTP..I got £29.50 a week and had to hand half into the house!

But it was worth it now!
Dunno if they still have those youth trainig projects now!

now your on 49.60 dole money and have to hand it all in to the household 

[LegBarnes]

Ive noticed the amount of views and lack of reply. And well done. Its a stupid idea isnt it? I posted this just to point out the obvious flaws in such suggestions and the means in which they can be caught out. Lets face it, and be honest, people who claim benefits have to to ensure the bills are paid. Many people who are claiming benefits do so because the work isnt there. It doesnt help having politicians constantly on the case of the unemployed saying "YOUR EVIL" and must be stamped out. In this time of britain struggling financially, the most proposals are for the poor, people who cannot find work because there area has been stamped out. Its hard enough, we dont need anymore pressure, we are already turning grey and growing wrinkles because of it.

When I found out my missus was pregnant again, I redid my CV, I applied once again to jobs and tried to find something. Even factories, a last resort not long ago, are out. Theres nothing. A friend of mine suggested drug dealing. He doesnt take them himself but he doesnt sign on, he has a car and money. I refuse to, its my morals. I would like the government and general ignorance itself to stop blaming people like me claiming benefits as being the cause of the problem currently.
Do I become society's problem or do I become society's problem? in my case there is no choice. The government should stop pinning the blame on those at the bottom, as we cannot get any lower.

You are a genuine person though that WANTS to work!
The problem is there are millions who have no interest in working,that milk the system,feign disabilities to get free cars and all that!

Its these bast@rds that the government want to be targeting,not people like you and single mums!
Keep your chin up mate,I've been there not so long ago.Its easy to give up hope when theres nothing out there to apply for but something will come up.In the meantime staying sane is hard to do,its boring as fu'ck having no job!
Something will come up though and you will appreciate it when it does,plus you will respect your ££ more and probably turn into a right stingey kunt like me!!

I see these so called millions and its mainly youths that just wanna doss do drugs and hang out with there mates.

But some of the role models these kids have who could blame them. 

All comes down to education at end of day we teach kids math , english this and that but we don't teach them what life is really like , its a hard world out there and its a shock for most of them when they leave school.

I say we need to rethink school all together.

At 13 I think kids should go into voluntary employment for 2 years with government surport then after they have seen the real world they go back to school for 3 years to do there exams and have a much better idea what they really want to do with there lifes.

I don't think leaving normal school at 18 is such a bad thing it give them a wider view on world imo.

[JoeTerp]

Let them eat cake

more like allow the conditions for people to make their own cake instead of rationing butter to EVERYONE to put on the bread that we give out to EVERYONE for nothing.

[andy_g]

how do you make kids go into voluntary employment?

[account deleted by request]

Let them eat cake

more like allow the conditions for people to make their own cake instead of rationing butter to EVERYONE to put on the bread that we give out to EVERYONE for nothing.

Report: 35.5M hungry in USA in '06

WASHINGTON (AP) — More than 35.5 million people in this country went hungry in 2006 as they struggled to find jobs that can support them, a figure that was virtually unchanged from the previous year, the Agriculture Department said Wednesday.
Single mothers and their children were among the most likely to suffer, according to the study.

The 35.5 million people represented more than 1 in 10, or 12.1%, who said they did not have enough money or resources to get food for at least some period during the year, according to the department's annual hunger survey. That is compared with 35.1 million people who made similar claims in 2005.

"This is encouraging, but we know we have more work to do," said Kate Houston, USDA's deputy undersecretary for food, nutrition and consumer services. She said the numbers aren't much different from 2005, which saw a decline after five straight years of increases.

Of the 35.5 million people, 11.1 million reported they had "very low food security," meaning they had a substantial disruption in the amount of food they typically eat. For example, among families, a third of those facing disruption in the food they typically eat said an adult in their family did not eat for a whole day because they could not afford it.

"No one in America should go hungry," Houston said.

The survey was based on Census Bureau data and does not include the homeless. About three-quarters of a million people were homeless on a given day in 2005, according to federal estimates.

Among the findings:

• Among families, about 12.6 million, or 10.9%, reported going hungry for at least some period last year. Those disproportionately reporting hunger were single mothers (30.4 percent); black households (21.8 percent); Hispanic households (19.5 percent); and households with incomes below the official poverty line (36.3 percent).

• States with families reporting higher prevalence of hunger from 2004-2006 included: Mississippi (18.1 percent); New Mexico (16.1 percent); Texas (15.9 percent); and South Carolina (14.7 percent).

• Of the 35.5 million people reporting periods of hunger last year, 12.6 million were children.

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Sounds like there are quite a few waiting of their slice of the cake to me.

[Kharhaz]

You seem a bright bloke with an interest in computers, why not try a computer course.... if nothing else it will give you an interest and something to do, and you never know it might help in your job search.

I did a computer course a couple of years ago. My first job was as an administrator in a shipping firm. I got an NVQ Level 2 in Business Admin and Level 3 in Customer Service while there so it made sence to me to learn more about computers to gain an advantage. I got A NVQ level 2 in Information Technology. The problem now is, administration is female dominated. Look around any agency place or the jobcenter or new deal, and there is a greater female presence. The main problem I have is not experience, or qualifications its the simple fact that the jobs are simply not here. When I left the admin game I went to train in bar management. Gained a NVQ Level 3 in On Licensed Premises Supervision and later got a position as a Cellar Person in a hotel. After a few years the hotel went under and since then we have been struggling. I have taken odd jobs, even one as a delivery driver, working in game station and a charity shop (the last two using the Work Trial the jobcenter offer) in the end, nothing. Im no slouch when it comes to working, I pull my finger out but the problem is, they get me for free for a couple of months then move on to another idiot who is willing to work for 2 months using this Work Trial scheme. I have to face facts, I have to be on the ball every day when applying for a job and hope that one of my applications gets through to a genuine employer who want workers.

Something will come up though and you will appreciate it when it does,plus you will respect your ££ more and probably turn into a right stingey kunt like me!!

I dont see money, I hear rumours about it from my missus !