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[JBG]

Well can Sabre remove this Omlette guy who's just posting porn links please.

Done.

And AB and Woof, in a thead that has my name, if I may ask, let's talk about footie, or if you wish, my Steve Bruce sized head.

Drop it!

Gettin' second thoughts about your new position yet? 

I dunno, I don't think Sabre's affiliation with Socidead disqualifies or diminishes his role in any way: moderating here is purely an administrative job and trying to keep a bunch of whinge bags happy, not about Liverpool FC.

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Now we have more Mods than members its cooler not being a Mod anyway.

[Sabre]

Gettin' second thoughts about your new position yet?

I knew what was coming   No surprises, whatsoever.

At least JM can have his pint of beer with no hurry. They deserve it.

[jonnymac1979]

At least JM can have his pint of beer with no hurry.

Red wine tonight, Sabre.  Probably lots and lots of lager tomorrow. 

I'm wearing green tomorrow!!! 

[Sabre]

I didn't use to but I'm becoming a fan of a red wine. Should have done that before since my family has vineyards in La Rioja. Curiously enough I don't like the Reserves and Great Reserves (more than 30 quid a bottle) I preffer the young red wines.

Tomorrow I have big fiesta (birthday of a mate) so I hope Peewee is here for the night shift!

[Woollyback]

Well can Sabre remove this Omlette guy who's just posting porn links please.

Done.

And AB and Woof, in a thead that has my name, if I may ask, let's talk about footie, or if you wish, my Steve Bruce sized head.

Drop it!

Gettin' second thoughts about your new position yet? 

I dunno, I don't think Sabre's affiliation with Socidead disqualifies or diminishes his role in any way: moderating here is purely an administrative job and trying to keep a bunch of whinge bags happy, not about Liverpool FC.

a-f*cking-men

[Woollyback]

I didn't use to but I'm becoming a fan of a red wine. Should have done that before since my family has vineyards in La Rioja. Curiously enough I don't like the Reserves and Great Reserves (more than 30 quid a bottle) I preffer the young red wines.

Tomorrow I have big fiesta (birthday of a mate) so I hope Peewee is here for the night shift!

mmmmm.....    rioja, my favourite wine in the whole world    

[jonnymac1979]

I didn't use to but I'm becoming a fan of a red wine.

I just think it gets you a different kind of pissed than lager does.  A more mellow kind.  I'm in the mood for red wine tonight.  It'll knock me out.  I actually found six cans of lager that I didn't know were there before in the fridge which I'm going to polish off before I open the wine though, and I've agreed to go and get shitfaced with my mates tomorrow cause it's Paddies Day.  Probably a bad move.

On Wednesday afternoon, I was drinking this cheap dynamite called Abbott in Liverpool.  Real Ale.  You know the stuff.  Only needed four pints and I was bladdered by 5pm.  Few pints of Peroni and then onto Carling Cold in the other pubs.  Lasted until about 9pm I think before I had to go home.  Wasted I was.

[Woollyback]

that's our jonny 


just opened a nice bottle of red - it's a navarra, vinas viejas reserva 2001. sluuurrrrrrp. nice   cost a tenner at oddbins, probably cost about 50p in spain   

[Sabre]

A tenner for a 2001 red of Navarra?

Navarra had good wines but their reds are not worth the trouble. They have that other kind of wine the "Rosado" (Rosed, not that dark), they're very good at that kind of wine.

Woolly lad, send me your address and I'll send you a couple of bottles some day. (I'm not sure if there will be problems with alcohol sending though)

[Woollyback]

A tenner for a 2001 red of Navarra?

Navarra had good wines but their reds are not worth the trouble. They have that other kind of wine the "Rosado" (Rosed, not that dark), they're very good at that kind of wine.

Woolly lad, send me your address and I'll send you a couple of bottles some day. (I'm not sure if there will be problems with alcohol sending though)

i've never had a navarra before but it's actualy very nice - very similar in taste to a rioja, maybe a little softer (i understand the 2 regions are geographically very close?) but in fact much darker in colour than rioja. we have no choice in britain - all wine is expensive, apart from the rubbish that france, spain & italy refuse to drink so they export it to the uk and thanks to out government's tax fetish we end up paying £4 a bottle for 

[jonnymac1979]

So hang on a second.  I'm not really familiar with wine prices.

Are you saying that wine should really cost 50p a bottle but we pay through the nose for it because of some tax?

I got three bottles of Ernest and Julio red for £9.90 in the offy earlier and there is still a bottle from last week in the fridge, the California White Grenache rose wine.  Sweet that one.  Absolutely lovely on the palate.

[Sabre]

Depending on the grapes and the process you have different wines.

All the red wines are dark, and of course Navarra also does red wines, but their reds have not as good reputation as the RIoja ones. It depends on the brand of course.

THere's another brighter kind of wine, the one I told you of, and they're specialists in that kind. It's possible that kind of wine never reached UK though, it's not that international.

The last kind of wine is the white one (there are others but minoritary), made in the south, and appropiate for eating fish (but in a gastronomical way, of course you can get just píssed with it)

Navarra, Basque Country and La Rioja have common frontiers, yes, and southern Navarra has pretty much the same climate and vineyard kind of La Rioja. The main difference is in the process.

[Woollyback]

So hang on a second.  I'm not really familiar with wine prices.

Are you saying that wine should really cost 50p a bottle but we pay through the nose for it because of some tax?

I got three bottles of Ernest and Julio red for £9.90 in the offy earlier and there is still a bottle from last week in the fridge, the California White Grenache rose wine.  Sweet that one.  Absolutely lovely on the palate.

i went to a wine tasting day with work a year or two ago, it was fascinating - run by charlie manners wood from manwood wines.com in knutsford. proper bloke he was, not pretentious at all and certainly not an advocate of paying daft money for a bottle

he did take us through the costs involved though - basically by the time you add up the cost of production, bottling, labelling, exporting, ridiculous UK alcohol taxation, VAT, and then the retailer's mark-up you're over £4 ie. at £4 the wine is free, cos it's p*ss that the europeans won't drink

he reckoned there's plenty of very nice wines at £5-6 ish though, and he never pays more than £15 unless it's for a VERY special occasion. Special offers are obviously different but he did thoroughly recommend to never drink a bottle that costs less than a fiver RRP

on the continent they save a lot of money on export costs, but the main saving is on tax - in france they pay about 15p on a bottle of wine, in britain it's more like £2 even on a cheap bottle of plonk

[Sabre]

Are you saying that wine should really cost 50p a bottle but we pay through the nose for it because of some tax?

For 1 € you have wine here. A 2001 Navarra, not the best, not the worse, is about 4€ (2 quid). FOr a Ten quid you get a paternina banda azul or a cheap rioja

And the taxes thing is outrageous. For instance in some northern countries of Europe they pay our cheap wines very expensive. Because otherwise their local producers are outraged, since they have no sun, they have to add sugar artificially to make wine, and thus their wine is shíte, if their wine had to compete with southern wines at the same price, they'd dissapear. I can understand that, every country has their protective measures in one product or another.