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[coddy]

Sorry the dates are bottom to top and that this is only one side of the conflict, but it does support Shanks72 view that Hizballah not only captured 2 soldiers but had been firing rockets into Israel well BEFORE the 2 soldiers were captured.

Even when i lived in Cyprus a few years ago Hizballah used to mortar some of the beaches, i also believe they are good friends with Gadafe and the Libyan Militia

[metalhead]

Just to cheer everyone up August 22nd  2006 is the date when the Iranian/Muslim Armageddon is supposed to happen. Maybe Metalhead can clear this up?

is it? i thought it was after two years 

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

The point is that: When Israel want to fight with terrorism, then they must fight with terrorism.

If u kill hundreds of civilians than terrorists and try to demolish a whole country, you are much more loathsome than terrorists.

[metalhead]

Sorry the dates are bottom to top and that this is only one side of the conflict, but it does support Shanks72 view that Hizballah not only captured 2 soldiers but had been firing rockets into Israel well BEFORE the 2 soldiers were captured.

24 Jul 2006 - Hizballah fired more than 70 Katyusha rockets into Israel, several of which landed in Nahariya, Safed, and Kiryat Shmona. Medics treated at least 49 people who were lightly to moderately wounded. More than 2200 rockets have been fired at Israeli cities since July 12, killing 17 Israelis, all of them civilians. 20 Israeli soldiers were killed in other incidents.

23 Jul 2006 - Shimon Glickblich, 60, of Haifa was killed Sunday morning (11:00) while driving his car in Haifa. Habib Isa Awad, 48, of Iblin, was killed while working in the carpentry shop in Kiryat Ata. Another 12 were wounded in the morning barrage in Haifa, and more later in the day as over 90 rockets were fired at Haifa, Akko, Kiryat Shmona, and elsewhere in northern Israel. .

20 Jul 2006 - Five IDF soldiers were killed and five wounded in continuing exchanges of fire in the Lebanese village of Maroun al-Ras, near Avivim, where two soldiers were killed on Wednesday. The body of the fifth soldier, St.-Sgt. Yonatan (Sergei) Vlasyuk, 21, of Kibbutz Lahav was retrieved on July 22. At 16, Yonatan immigrated alone to Israel through the Jewish Agency's "Na'aleh" program. He was adopted by Dalia Gal, a member of Kibbutz Lahav in the Negev. An IDF officer was killed and three soldiers were wounded as two Apache (Cobra) combat helicopters on their way to Lebanon to assist IDF forces operating against Hizballah terrorists near Avivim collided and then crashed south of Kiryat Shmona.

19 Jul 2006 - St.-Sgt. Yonatan Hadasi, 21, of Kibbutz Merhavia and St.-Sgt. Yotam Gilboa, 21, of Kibbutz Maoz Haim were killed and nine soldiers were wounded in exchanges of fire between IDF and Hizballah in south Lebanon, near Moshav Avivim. The Israeli force had crossed the border to destroy the Hizballah rocket-launching position at the former IDF outpost of Shaked. Rabia Abed Taluzi (3) and his brother Mahmoud (7) who were playing soccer outside their house were killed and dozens were wounded in two Katyusha rocket attacks on the Israeli Arab city of Nazareth.

18 Jul 2006 - Andrei Zelinksy, 36, was killed Tuesday evening in Nahariya outside a bomb shelter. Though he managed to save his family by rushing them into the shelter, he returned home to get a blanket for his daughter and was killed. Some 130 rockets were fired at the north on Tuesday, 100 of them within one hour and a half - also landing in the Haifa area, Karmiel, Tiberias, Safed, Maalot and Rosh Pina. About 60 people injured were evacuated to hospitals in Safed and Nahariya.

17 Jul 2006 - Over 50 rockets were fired towards the eastern and upper Galilee on Monday night. A Katyusha rocket hit the external wall of the Rebecca Sieff Hospital in Safed, causing damage to infrastructure; five patients, two doctors and two other hospital employees were injured. Earlier, 11 people were wounded in Haifa when a 3-story apartment building was hit by missile. The Israel Air Force destroyed at least ten long-range Iranian-made missiles capable of hitting Tel Aviv, by targeting a Hizballah truck carrying the missiles before they could be launched. To date, missiles have been fired up to 40 kilometers into Israel.

16 Jul 2006 - Eight killed, 50 wounded in Hizballah rocket attack on Haifa - Rockets began falling on the Haifa area shortly after 9:00 a.m. Eight employees of Israel Railways at the Haifa train depot were killed in a direct hit by a Fajar missile made in Syria. A total of over 50 people were wounded in Haifa and the Haifa Bay area.

15 Jul 2006 - Katyusha rockets landed for the first time in Tiberias, located 35 kilometers from the Lebanese border on the Sea of Galilee, as well as in nearby communities.

14 Jul 2006 - Shortly after 8:30 p.m. Friday night an Israeli navy ship was severely damaged by an Iran-manufactured missile fired by Hizballah. Four IDF soldiers were killed: Staff Sgt. Tal Amgar, 21, of Ashdod; Yaniv Hershkovitz, 21, of Haifa; Shai Atias, 19, of Rishon Lezion; and Dov Steinshuss, 37, of Karmiel. Omer Pesachov, 7, of Nahariya, and his grandmother Yehudit Itzkovitch, 58, of Moshav Meron were killed by a Katyusha rocket in Meron early Friday evening. Roni, Omer's older sister, was badly wounded, and the grandfather, Naftali, was lightly hurt. The family had fled the Katyushas in Nahariya to spend a quiet weekend with their grandparents.

13 Jul 2006 - Monica Seidman (Lehrer), 40, of Nahariya was killed in her home by a Katyusha rocket Thursday morning. In the evening, Nitzan Roseban, 33, was killed in Safed by a direct rocket hit. On Thursday evening Katyushas landed in Haifa.

12 Jul 2006 - Hizballah terrorists infiltrated into Israeli territory and attacked two IDF armored jeeps patrolling the border with Lebanon, killing three soldiers and kidnapping two. Ground forces entered Lebanon in the area of the attack. A large explosive device was detonated underneath an Israeli tank, killing all four of the tank crew. An eighth soldier was killed when IDF troops entered Lebanon to try to retrieve the bodies of the tank crew. Throughout the day, Hizballah terror organization fired Katyusha rockets and mortar shells at Israel's northern borders' communities and IDF posts.

27 May 2006 - An IDF soldier was wounded when Katyushas were fired at an army base at Mt. Meron in the upper Galilee.

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can you give me what source is this please?

You havn't mention any facts on what Israel did before the war started. Firing Katyusha rockets happened for a reason, one of them is violating Lebanese Airspace and there were some small battles before the war happened.

July 12, When hizballah captured the two soldiers Israel immidiatly intiated artillary fire into lebanese villages on the border of Lebanon-Israel. I know that because that day I was university hearing the news on the radio with some friends in the morning. Then after 2 to 3 hours Israelian jet fighters started hitting bridges in the south of Lebanon.

the Farms of Shib3a, were the uniformed soldiers were captured, is still debatable at which land it is for. Some say it is Lebanese territory and some say it is Syrian territory, it is now occupied by Israelian forces.

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metalhead I put a link to the source mate and it is a ONESIDED view unfortunately but I couldnt find one that covered both sides.


Although the truce agreement is due to take effect early Monday, it is unclear when hostilities will actually cease.

Hezbollah's leader has said his group will abide by the ceasefire plan agreed unanimously at the UN Security Council on Friday.

However, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said on TV that Hezbollah would continue fighting as long as Israeli soldiers remained in Lebanon.

And Israel has said it will not withdraw from southern Lebanon until Lebanese troops and an expanded UN force are deployed there.

It has also said that its troops will respond if Hezbollah violates the resolution.

Now both sides are acting like little kids 

[metalhead]

The point is that: When Israel want to fight with terrorism, then they must fight with terrorism.

If u kill hundreds of civilians than terrorists and try to demolish a whole country, you are much more loathsome than terrorists.

Agreed, for what I know Israel lost militarely but succeeded destroying the country and creating so many massacres 

oh and a quote from the Israelian secretary of the state : " Not one army in the world can disarm Hizballah" Levni.

She said it today, and now Israel are ready to negotiate for the captured soldiers, about f*cking time too! They should have negotiated long time ago, but they had to destroy the country before starting negotiation.

[metalhead]

metalhead I put a link to the source mate


Although the truce agreement is due to take effect early Monday, it is unclear when hostilities will actually cease.

Hezbollah's leader has said his group will abide by the ceasefire plan agreed unanimously at the UN Security Council on Friday.

However, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said on TV that Hezbollah would continue fighting as long as Israeli soldiers remained in Lebanon.

And Israel has said it will not withdraw from southern Lebanon until Lebanese troops and an expanded UN force are deployed there.

It has also said that its troops will respond if Hezbollah violates the resolution.

Now both sides are acting like little kids 

Well Hizballah have every right to defend their land and kick the Israelian out. I want both parties to stop and Israel should withdraw their troops as fast as they can or they will get more casualties.

The battle may continue until a week between Israel and Hizballah, but the rockets fired into Israel will stop and Israel will stop bombing everywhere.

[shanks72]

Sorry the dates are bottom to top and that this is only one side of the conflict, but it does support Shanks72 view that Hizballah not only captured 2 soldiers but had been firing rockets into Israel well BEFORE the 2 soldiers were captured.

The Israel Air Force destroyed at least ten long-range Iranian-made missiles capable of hitting Tel Aviv, by targeting a Hizballah truck carrying the missiles before they could be launched. To date, missiles have been fired up to 40 kilometers into Israel.


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Thanks for that S@int, very interesting!

The LINK you've posted is very good as well.

It's interesting that Hezbollah are using "Iranian-made missiles".  Everyone knows that Iran's leader has publically stated that he wants Israel obliterated. He must be very pleased that Hezbollah are doing his dirty work for him.

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I hope you are right mate, I think they should both just stop fighting now and await the ceasefire. Whats the point of continuing to fight now?

[metalhead]

It's interesting that Hezbollah are using "Iranian-made missiles".

well it is interesting that Israel have American made weapons and tanks isn't it!? 

[account deleted by request]

It's interesting that Hezbollah are using "Iranian-made missiles".

well it is interesting that Israel have American made weapons and tanks isn't it!? 

Nice one 

[shanks72]

but the rockets fired into Israel will stop and Israel will stop bombing everywhere.

Let's hope so for everyone's sake.



Ok, so Israel do have American weapons. But the point I was trying to make was that it is no secret that Iran want the annihilation of Israel.
I haven't heard the Americans publically state anything like this about it's arab neighbours.

[Igor Zidane]

but the rockets fired into Israel will stop and Israel will stop bombing everywhere.

Let's hope so for everyone's sake.



Ok, so Israel do have American weapons. But the point I was trying to make was that it is no secret that Iran want the annihilation of Israel.
I haven't heard the Americans publically state anything like this about it's arab neighbours.

No they haven't , that's because they are sponsering Israel to do it for them.

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

Ok, so Israel do have American weapons. But the point I was trying to make was that it is no secret that Iran want the annihilation of Israel.
I haven't heard the Americans publically state anything like this about it's arab neighbours.

There isnt any relation between Irans hate to Israel and Hızballahs Iran-made missiles. If Iran make cheap and effective weapons, Hızballah can buy them and use.

Every army has foreign-sourced war materials.

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

However, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said on TV that Hezbollah would continue fighting as long as Israeli soldiers remained in Lebanon.

And Israel has said it will not withdraw from southern Lebanon until Lebanese troops and an expanded UN force are deployed there.

It has also said that its troops will respond if Hezbollah violates the resolution.

Now both sides are acting like little kids 

What means ceasefire?..Just not to fire?.. Nope 

Occupying of a enemy on my own land means there isnt any ceasefire.

For a definite peace, everyone HAVE TO go back his own land. If not, everyone has every right to defend his country.