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Postby Big Niall » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:53 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:IF they did redeploy then it could be destroyed if it then provided a threat - we were there to liberate the Falklands and NOT declare war on Argentina hence it is always called a conflict and not a war as neither side declared war . The sinking of the Belgrano IMO could of easily been a war crime and IMO an act of cowardice and morally wrong .

why leave your enemy escape, get their act together, and then come back at you looking to kill you? Hitler should have gone into dunkirk faster and killed as many of the british as he could, he hesitated, they escaped and it was a big blow to the germans.

whether you are an argentinian soldier or a british one, you cannot really complain when the enemy tries to kill you, nor is it a tragedy when a soldier on any side gets killed, that's war.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:01 pm

Off course its a tragedy when anyone dies in a conflict whether it be enemy or friendly - any death is tragic - is it not a tragedy when British soldiers die in the current afghan war ? And reg the cowardice was more pointed towards Twa.tcher herself as opposed to any of the soldiers or airmen or sailors .
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:04 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Off course its a tragedy when anyone dies in a conflict whether it be enemy or friendly - any death is tragic - is it not a tragedy when British soldiers die in the current afghan war ? And reg the cowardice was more pointed towards Twa.tcher herself as opposed to any of the soldiers or airmen or sailors .

a soldier signs up for war, his/her death (regardless of nation) is not as sad as some poor sod that gets his/her house blown up in the cross fire or the innocent children that die.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:04 pm

However a war is always beneficial to politicians garnering votes surely it cannot be refuted that these actions led to the Tories victory in 1983 ...after a wave of patriotic sentiment swept through Britain ..... everyone can dispute the necessity of War till they are blue in the face .....however it will not deter those of us who believe ulterior motives were behind these actions
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Postby Reg » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:08 pm

RGB, Churchill didnt benefit from his handling of WW11, he was voted out at the first opportunity!
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Postby Emerald Red » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:10 pm

Thatcher was a cunning oul b@stard when it came to that conflict. My history on it is not that great, but I do remember her issuing a message to the fleets there at the time in a code, which a reporter ended up breaking. Once broken it read "starve the press". Now why would she have issued that order, I wonder?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:11 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Off course its a tragedy when anyone dies in a conflict whether it be enemy or friendly - any death is tragic - is it not a tragedy when British soldiers die in the current afghan war ? And reg the cowardice was more pointed towards Twa.tcher herself as opposed to any of the soldiers or airmen or sailors .

a soldier signs up for war, his/her death (regardless of nation) is not as sad as some poor sod that gets his/her house blown up in the cross fire or the innocent children that die.

Yet more innocents die from terrorists , the kind off which are forces are trying to stop and get rid of currently in Afghan , so someone being killed while in the act of trying to make the world a safer place is a tragedy .
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:17 pm

Reg wrote:RGB, Churchill didnt benefit from his handling of WW11, he was voted out at the first opportunity!

If we're offering examples mate Im sure the elections George Bush won would equally dilute your argument  ....
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:59 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Off course its a tragedy when anyone dies in a conflict whether it be enemy or friendly - any death is tragic - is it not a tragedy when British soldiers die in the current afghan war ? And reg the cowardice was more pointed towards Twa.tcher herself as opposed to any of the soldiers or airmen or sailors .

a soldier signs up for war, his/her death (regardless of nation) is not as sad as some poor sod that gets his/her house blown up in the cross fire or the innocent children that die.

Yet more innocents die from terrorists , the kind off which are forces are trying to stop and get rid of currently in Afghan , so someone being killed while in the act of trying to make the world a safer place is a tragedy .

I doubt most soldiers signed up to fight terrorism(many joined before the afghan war started). They just signed up, if britain gets into a war with another state then they'll fight in that war too, just like they fought the argentinians over the falklands.

a soldiers death is, in my view, always less sad that an innocent civilian who wanted no part of the violence.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:12 pm

You will prob find the majority of people serving in Afghan currently joined up after the 9/11
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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:21 pm

tonyeh wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:whats the meaning of "on the dole" ?

Social welfare Maypax.

dole

thanks Tonyeh  :)
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:08 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:You will prob find the majority of people serving in Afghan currently joined up after the 9/11

more made up facts  :laugh:
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Postby worcester_red » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:10 pm

A soldiers death in only tragic if the war/battle is pointless, misdirected or unjustified?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:50 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:You will prob find the majority of people serving in Afghan currently joined up after the 9/11

more made up facts  :laugh:

Not in the slightest . The fact the average age of a soldier in the army out on afghan is between 22 and 23 you figure out when they joined up .
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Postby Benny The Noon » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:51 pm

worcester_red wrote:A soldiers death in only tragic if the war/battle is pointless, misdirected or unjustified?

Any soldiers death is tragic .
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