Bamaga man wrote:It's not unacceptable Sabre, it uses that murder as an example of the PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS of moderate to high Cannabis use over a long time. I never said the Cannabis was committing a murder, the EFFECT of MODERATE cannabis use over a long time can cause Schizophrenia, these people were HEAVILY influenced by Cannabbis and the evidence strongly points to their mental incapacity as a significant reason for the murders
Going down that route isnt very valid IMO, firstly it CAN produce Schizophrenia, it doesnt mean it will give everyone who smokes it Schizophrenia. Taken one point in which are murder commited, doesnt really hold up for people when comparing it with Alcohol. No, not at all. How many alcoho deaths are recorded every year, how many people cause serious injury or death when under the influence of alcohol. What happens every Friday and Saturday night, in most towns and Cities throughout the UK, its not uncommon for fights to kick off, ending in serious consequences.
You had a fair point about the possibilitiy of Schizophrenia, but like wise your liver could break down if drinking too much. Mentally or Physically its not what anyone would want.Using alcohol MODERATELY over a long time does not cause these effects, not on the same scale as Cannabis.
How do you know have you tried using both over long periods moderately, plus everyone is different.The cannabis in Britain is different - a lot stronger- from elsewhere except holand where they are cannabis kings - it is much stronger, I have friends from Brazil who were shocked when they tried some of it over here, it is much stronger.
That quite simply isnt true.Smoking cannabis consistently will NOT cause mental health problems in EVERY case, but the incidences are higher than amongst other drugs when used moderately
Are you comparing just Cannabis and alcohol, if you are your possibly right, but like I said Cannabis wont cause mental health problems in many cases, drink driving definately kills more. If you are comparing Cannabis to other drugs like LSD, Amphetimene and Cocaine then you are wrong.
Basically both alcohol and Cannabis have different effects, both may have Pro's both definately have Cons.
I don't know how to multiquote but I'll respond anyway:
1) I NEVER said it caused Schizophrenia in EVERY SITUATION. I make it patently clear if you read my posts, ones to Sabre, that the incidence is higher in people who smoke Cannabis.
2) Alcohol deaths are caused as a result of EXCESSIVE drinking in most cases. You can smoke Cannabis moderately over a long time, not necessarily in EXCESS, and develop psychosis. There is scientific evidence that cannabis causes psychosis in higher incidences than Alcohol taken moderately over a similar period.
3) If you read this whole thread most of your points are answered in abundance.
4) Cannabis in Britain is a lot stronger and is DIFFERENT to Cannabis in other countries, but not EVERY country - especially South America. I have friends in Brazil, it IS different and much stronger. It is true.
5) LSD, Amphetamine and Cocaine are stronger than Cannabis, they are ILLEGAL and a higher classification.
I am comparing Cannabis and alcohol because the argument is whether Cannabis should be legalised, that is why. Drink driving kills more, of course it does - that is outside of the law, Cannabis causes psychological effects that Drinking in moderation does not produce - that is why it is illegal.
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that don’t take the perfect opportunity to give up a life style that is killing you.
