Liverpool FC Forum

[andy_g]

just to answer lando's last question, i would say that in recent years the number of innocent muslims killed by christians outweighs by a considerable amount the number of innocent christians killed by muslims.

id say...bollox is it?

are we not allowed to include the thousands of innocent civilian casualities killed in afghanistan and iraq?

[dawson99]

thats war, not religion dude... thats politics...

lets do an experiment... we both draw pictures, with our names and addresses, i do a funny one of jesus, u do a funny one of mohammed, lets see which one of us sees next week

[tubby]

I don't think opening a Mosque on the anniversary of 9/11 was a good idea but some people in here are just talking . Juts goes to show how small minded some people really are. If you let the actions of a minority affect your perception of an entire group then you are just a c.unt.

[tubby]

the best time to pick a fight with muslims is during ramadam - they'll be weak as f*ck. I'd feel as tough as I did when I beat up those Amish guys.

What a stupid thing to say. I suppose the best time to kick of with Chirstians is Xmas day afternoon as they will all be stuffed with turkey so can't move aroud let alone fight right? P.rick

Im not even muslim but saying like that is not on.

[andy_g]

thats war, not religion dude... thats politics...

lets do an experiment... we both draw pictures, with our names and addresses, i do a funny one of jesus, u do a funny one of mohammed, lets see which one of us sees next week

fair enough, daws - but i don't think its appropriate to simplify things so much anymore. the poor quality of the general relationship between the muslim community and the christian community (in the widest sense of both) is both cause and effect of the out of control conflicts taking place in muslim countries now.

i've nearly finished my sketch of mohammned, hows your jesus coming along?

[dawson99]

hehe, im going more for living art

[tubby]

hehe, im going more for living art

Seen that before, quality though. 

Although your task isn't really fair. I think it is against the laws of Islam to make any graphic representation of Muhammed. Something along those lines anyway...

[dawson99]

against the laws of islam maybe, i aint in islam...

[ConnO'var]

The depths of ignorance and intolerance on these boards astound me sometimes.

When it comes to the media against LFC, EVERYONE buys into the conspiracy theory. But when it comes to the media against Johnny Foreigner, it would appear that people are more willing to accept the media's version/spin/whatever else the feck you want to call it.

The media in our beloved England and almost the rest of the western world will put a spin on anything, as long as it gains attention, sells papers and increase viewership..... Of course the other part of this conspiracy theory which you need to consider is that most of the world's media is Jewish owned....... people who are not exactly pro-islam are they? Due to their long standing enmity. Bollox, I say.... nationalism, common enemies and religious mumbo jumbo is the last refuge of the scoundrel and the small minded.

Crimes in the name of God has gone on for decades, centuries, eons..... Every religion barring possibly Buddhism (which is not even a religion I'm told) has been embroiled in some form of abhorrent atrocities..... No one is clean.

Know your history, understand the xenophobia within and without before making, dare I say it, STUPID, ill-educated, sweeping statements....

I have been working in the Middle East for years and years.... by and large, most muslims I've met have been good, honest and friendly folk who have treated us with understanding and respect. Of course, there are always the bad apples who give they whole barrel a rotten odour. How different is that from white Christian members of the KKK?

The horror that people perpetrate is always more newsworthy than the good.... have you not noticed?
For me, I cannot comprehend the right by which some people have judged 1 billion followers of Islam as evil and tarred them ALL with the blood smeared brush of the insane, fundamentalists.

Me da always said that the quickest way to start a fight between differing peoples is to talk about religion.... I'm sad to see that in the 3 decades since he taught me, the world hasn't changed and the lessons hold as true today as did then.

[dawson99]

media is so pro-islanm its scary tho conn, thats my gripe.. its always the big bad white man... then someone gets beheaded, burnt etc etc and thats ok

[aCe']

The depths of ignorance and intolerance on these boards astound me sometimes.

When it comes to the media against LFC, EVERYONE buys into the conspiracy theory. But when it comes to the media against Johnny Foreigner, it would appear that people are more willing to accept the media's version/spin/whatever else the feck you want to call it.

The media in our beloved England and almost the rest of the western world will put a spin on anything, as long as it gains attention, sells papers and increase viewership..... Of course the other part of this conspiracy theory which you need to consider is that most of the world's media is Jewish owned....... people who are not exactly pro-islam are they? Due to their long standing enmity. Bollox, I say.... nationalism, common enemies and religious mumbo jumbo is the last refuge of the scoundrel and the small minded.

Crimes in the name of God has gone on for decades, centuries, eons..... Every religion barring possibly Buddhism (which is not even a religion I'm told) has been embroiled in some form of abhorrent atrocities..... No one is clean.

Know your history, understand the xenophobia within and without before making, dare I say it, STUPID, ill-educated, sweeping statements....

I have been working in the Middle East for years and years.... by and large, most muslims I've met have been good, honest and friendly folk who have treated us with understanding and respect. Of course, there are always the bad apples who give they whole barrel a rotten odour. How different is that from white Christian members of the KKK?

The horror that people perpetrate is always more newsworthy than the good.... have you not noticed?
For me, I cannot comprehend the right by which some people have judged 1 billion followers of Islam as evil and tarred them ALL with the blood smeared brush of the insane, fundamentalists.

Me da always said that the quickest way to start a fight between differing peoples is to talk about religion.... I'm sad to see that in the 3 decades since he taught me, the world hasn't changed and the lessons hold as true today as did then.

yep... thats pretty much my take on things too... Very similar experiences and all that...

And Daws, if you think the media are pro-islam, you need a serious reality check dude....

[tubby]

The depths of ignorance and intolerance on these boards astound me sometimes.

When it comes to the media against LFC, EVERYONE buys into the conspiracy theory. But when it comes to the media against Johnny Foreigner, it would appear that people are more willing to accept the media's version/spin/whatever else the feck you want to call it.

The media in our beloved England and almost the rest of the western world will put a spin on anything, as long as it gains attention, sells papers and increase viewership..... Of course the other part of this conspiracy theory which you need to consider is that most of the world's media is Jewish owned....... people who are not exactly pro-islam are they? Due to their long standing enmity. Bollox, I say.... nationalism, common enemies and religious mumbo jumbo is the last refuge of the scoundrel and the small minded.

Crimes in the name of God has gone on for decades, centuries, eons..... Every religion barring possibly Buddhism (which is not even a religion I'm told) has been embroiled in some form of abhorrent atrocities..... No one is clean.

Know your history, understand the xenophobia within and without before making, dare I say it, STUPID, ill-educated, sweeping statements....

I have been working in the Middle East for years and years.... by and large, most muslims I've met have been good, honest and friendly folk who have treated us with understanding and respect. Of course, there are always the bad apples who give they whole barrel a rotten odour. How different is that from white Christian members of the KKK?

The horror that people perpetrate is always more newsworthy than the good.... have you not noticed?
For me, I cannot comprehend the right by which some people have judged 1 billion followers of Islam as evil and tarred them ALL with the blood smeared brush of the insane, fundamentalists.

Me da always said that the quickest way to start a fight between differing peoples is to talk about religion.... I'm sad to see that in the 3 decades since he taught me, the world hasn't changed and the lessons hold as true today as did then.

Spot on mate. The sad fact is people will always be doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again. But I am sort of glad this thread came up. Gave me a chance to see people's true colors.

[dawson99]

ace, i know they are pro islam... trust me, maybe its as im in london. but every pro islam march i see, with them burning the union jack, burning effegies, chanting jihad etc etc and nothing is done...

16 people turn up to protest against it, and its in all the papers...

F*cking tragic the state of this country 

and this recent thing in harrow, who do the mps condemn, the 16 protestors... or the 600 who threw bottles and bricks?

yes, they conedmn the so called far right... joke!

[ConnO'var]

media is so pro-islanm its scary tho conn, thats my gripe.. its always the big bad white man... then someone gets beheaded, burnt etc etc and thats ok

True, mate....


But that's the media's problem.... not ours. We are all (well most anyway ) of sound mind and have been gifted with the ability to think.

The victor always skew history in their favour.... no matter what had been done to achieve said "victory". Sabre, could possibility attest to that. He's homeland has been the battleground between the Moors (muslims) and the Europeans of Christian leanings in recent history.... Have you considered what would have been the shape of western Europe had the Moors won? It's the Christians who would now be the "evil" doers and I've no doubt that the media would have no qualms painting that pretty picture.

There's a line in the Da Vinci code that I found most compelling..... As long as there has been ONE true god, there has been killing in his name......  Never a more apt description of the current sad state of affairs, methinks.

[tubby]

There is no room for the far right in any situation. This country went to war to stamp that out for sake. But then again the Mosque never should have been opened in the first place on that day.