Liverpool FC Forum

[Lando_Griffin]

I thought the whole idea of Mods was to give them power.
Surely they deserve the power to ban?


Sorry to hear you're retiring JBG.

I've not really spoken to you a lot, but you have always seemed a decent sort of fella to me.

*Bagpipes play "The Last Post"*
JBG the Mod is dead - LONG LIVE JBG THE MEMBER!!!!!

[laza]

I think, you should reconsider your decision for us, JBG.
And I still advocate self-moderating, it will be as this EASY and SIMPLE and EFFECTIVE:

sample:
1. wind-up posting
2. no reply
3 wind up himself replying
4. still no reply
5. wind up moaning
6 wind up getting bored
7 wind up leaving
8 wind up changing his name
9 back to no. 1

so easy,
we're just fine, JBG
please moderate us again

Its good in theory AA but it just doesnt work in reality not on a forum of this size.

People just cant help themselves.
Its the same with Advanced forum , the idea that people post up their posts in is also good in theory.
Trouble is some people like to actually post their work to wider audience for variety of reasons.
Half the stuff that goes in General discussion should be in other sections but there seems to be an attitude of it wont get read so im not putting it there.
Which i reckon is one of main reasons advanced section isnt utilised as much

People have to accept you will get a lot of newbies at this forum and im not really into this they shouldnt post unless they are some tactical genius who can write war and peace.
It does smack of elistism and besides some people seem to amuse themselves on these forums by picking on the newbs so it be one less sport.
If you dont like all the newb cluttering up your threads then post your stuff in advanced forum

However obvious wind up merchants especially those who are recurring characters already given the red card should be banned with extreme prejudice. The mods should have the power to do this and they should also be trusted to use that power wisely

Finally JBG thanks for all your efforts in a thankless job and enjoy the life of private citizen again

[anfieldadorer]

good point there, laza

certainly we may not hope this measure to work 100%, but at least i do believe we will find this effort as one of the most effective attempts to significantly reduce the windups intervention without wasting too much 'ammunition' and intellectual resources on nothing, and most of all, we all CAN do it without having to be a moderator, it's reasonably very easy

[laza]

good point there, laza

certainly we may not hope this measure to work 100%, but at least i do believe we will find this effort as one of the most effective attempts to significantly reduce the windups intervention without wasting too much 'ammunition' and intellectual resources on nothing, and most of all, we all CAN do it without having to be a moderator, it's reasonably very easy

Couldnt agree more mate, i try to ignore these pratts as much as possible but it gets very depressing when you see excellent threads or the same garbage pushed to the top.

Or regular posters whose posts i normally enjoy reading spending more of their complaining about these idiots then posting the stuff i have primarly come here to read

[Ciggy]

good point there, laza

certainly we may not hope this measure to work 100%, but at least i do believe we will find this effort as one of the most effective attempts to significantly reduce the windups intervention without wasting too much 'ammunition' and intellectual resources on nothing, and most of all, we all CAN do it without having to be a moderator, it's reasonably very easy

We can do a lot more to help Annie your right mate, but when Wind up merchants start , slagging off scousers, invading the Hillsborough forum and the merder sh.it gets put up on the forum from a lunatic it is bound to get peoples backs up.
For them muppets with one liners they dont bother me that much, we can ignore the likes of them.
But its when other fans come on here and abuse the forum, well Im afraid they need banning from the off.

[Sabre]

One of the recurring theories that are explained to combat trolls or Wind up merchants is the ignore them tactic. We all tend to agree that, and we all try to ignore them. But at the end of the day, if you are discussing and enjoying a debate, and suddenly you see a post with a long quote of 100 lines, and just one liner comment, and this line is insulting, the reading experience is worse.

Besides, this attitudes of ignoring will be assumed by many posters, but probably won't be assumed by young-decent posters that have not very much experience on forums, and will respond to the troll anyway.

I think that mods should have more rights, because it's really-really a dirty job  being mod, and they should have better tools to work. I think that they also should have the right to make a post dissapear or deleted. Deleting rather than locking is a good option for some threads, because a guy like mudface would find very discouraging to spend half an hour trying to be smart, only to see that his thread has been deleted. The answers to the stupid thread of mudface should also be deleted, thus discouraging the answering of this kind of threads. If an insulting post is found in the midst of a decent thread, just delete that post.

I think that being mod is difficult, so good luck to the one that will replace JBG!

[JBG]

Leon... see above, to aggressive. More grumpy than supersub used to be...

[bigmick]

Well I'm putting my vote towadrs Bigmick to be a mod. He has all the right qualities. JBG is irreplacable. But if anyone can get closest to being him it would be bigmick.

I think it's time to nail this one once and for all. I wouldn't touch the thing with a tenfoot bargepole, I think it's an impossible task. I've got a business to run and two young kids and don't have the time, energy or inclination to be having rows with keyboard gangsters every five minutes.

JBG resigning is desperately bad news for the forum IMHO. It's time for all of us to take a period of reflection as to how we have contributed to the fella jacking it in. Maybe this daft thread contributed in a way and if it did then I'm truly sorry mate.

If it's the case that the mods have to ask somebody higher up the food chain to ban somebody (and I think thats the impression I'm getting) then some sleuth needs to get the e-mail address of that person so we can all contact them and implore them to change this ridiculous status quo. Otherwise, the whole thing will cease to have any point which on a personal level is a shame because theres no better way to pass half an hour in between things. Cuppa, couple of jaffa cakes, an erse scratch and half an hour talking football is what it's all about at the end of the day.

As to the future, if JBG really won't consider a change of heart (and my suspicion is that he won't) then I'd let Stu do it. I know he's a nutter but he wouldn't be the first wayward soul involved in football to be calmed down a bit by handing him the armband. He's passionate about the club and the forum and would meet some of these numpties head on. Infact, he could conduct a PM war with them which would last about 11 days while in the meantime we could just get on with stuff. Come to think of it, once Stu started bombarding them with his "come back when you've got a clue, go to a game, you have no understanding of football whatsoever" stuff, the poor feckers would probably ban themselves    .

[adamnbarrett]

Well I'm putting my vote towadrs Bigmick to be a mod. He has all the right qualities. JBG is irreplacable. But if anyone can get closest to being him it would be bigmick.

I think it's time to nail this one once and for all. I wouldn't touch the thing with a tenfoot bargepole, I think it's an impossible task. I've got a business to run and two young kids and don't have the time, energy or inclination to be having rows with keyboard gangsters every five minutes.

JBG resigning is desperately bad news for the forum IMHO. It's time for all of us to take a period of reflection as to how we have contributed to the fella jacking it in. Maybe this daft thread contributed in a way and if it did then I'm truly sorry mate.

If it's the case that the mods have to ask somebody higher up the food chain to ban somebody (and I think thats the impression I'm getting) then some sleuth needs to get the e-mail address of that person so we can all contact them and implore them to change this ridiculous status quo. Otherwise, the whole thing will cease to have any point which on a personal level is a shame because theres no better way to pass half an hour in between things. Cuppa, couple of jaffa cakes, an erse scratch and half an hour talking football is what it's all about at the end of the day.

As to the future, if JBG really won't consider a change of heart (and my suspicion is that he won't) then I'd let Stu do it. I know he's a nutter but he wouldn't be the first wayward soul involved in football to be calmed down a bit by handing him the armband. He's passionate about the club and the forum and would meet some of these numpties head on. Infact, he could conduct a PM war with them which would last about 11 days while in the meantime we could just get on with stuff. Come to think of it, once Stu started bombarding them with his "come back when you've got a clue, go to a game, you have no understanding of football whatsoever" stuff, the poor feckers would probably ban themselves    .

Fair enough bigmick, from what JBG says its tougher than it looks. As you say you have your own life and don't want to be spending time on here.

I agree stu would make an awesome mod, he'd drive people away before they even posted 

[66-1120597113]

If JBG goes things will only get worse!!

Cant blame the fella though,like ffs what more can  you say!!

Some people just dont listen to the voice of reason and are intent on ruining the best LFC forum online for a lot of twisted reasons....
We shouldnt let them..the question is how do we go about stopping them???

[Ciggy]

If JBG goes things will only get worse!!

Cant blame the fella though,like ffs what more can  you say!!

Some people just dont listen to the voice of reason and are intent on ruining the best LFC forum online for a lot of twisted reasons....
We shouldnt let them..the question is how do we go about stopping them???

Easy LFC the forum Admin should give the MODS the authority to ban nuisances.
Would make the MODS jobs a lot easyier and they would have less pms to reply to.

[66-1120597113]

If JBG goes things will only get worse!!

Cant blame the fella though,like ffs what more can  you say!!

Some people just dont listen to the voice of reason and are intent on ruining the best LFC forum online for a lot of twisted reasons....
We shouldnt let them..the question is how do we go about stopping them???

Easy LFC the forum Admin should give the MODS the authority to ban nuisances.
Would make the MODS jobs a lot easyier and they would have less pms to reply to.

I suppose that would work if it happened!! Anyways have a great weekend y'all!!

Im off up to the North coast for the rest of the weekend...hope things are better round here when i come back!!
YNWA!!!!

[Sabre]

Fair enough bigmick, from what JBG says its tougher than it looks

It really is, and funnily enough, many think it's a privilege, when on the contrary, it's a nuisance and extra work. BTW, I also think Stu'd do a good job. Many of you would.

[drummerphil]

I agree with Lynds,give the current mods the power to ban....end of really.As for a new mod my choice has ruled himself out.....so i dont know really

[JBG]

I'm free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wonder how long it'll take me to get a few yellow cards?