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[Judge]

I was coming back from Tunisia with a plane full of holidaymakers and 5 foreign individuals. These foreigners started to check their handluggage regularly and spent many visits to the toilets. sometimes by themselves and sometimes on there own. They kept looking at their watches. It looked very suspicious
So i said to my missus. i aint happy with thier behaviour at all
so i went to the stewards and told themn of these peoples behaviour and said could they monitor them as i didnt want to find myself flying into some building. As it turned out when we finally landed these folk all had small knives in their baggage. Which they claimed were souvenirs.
our flight went without incident and we were all safe, but you can understand the fear generated !!

hmmm...

that reminds me of a recent incident on an american internal flight where a large family of muslims was on the plane. apparently passengers nearby overheard one of them saying 'oh, look we're right next to the engines'. they were reported to the crew, the flight was abandoned and the whole family arrested.

better safe than sorry, eh?

unfortunately i didnt hear them say anything, it was their behaviour that looked suspicious. finding the knives at customs was the key i think though.

we had to go to customs as we had 3000 cigs in the case, lol

[Roger Red Hat]

yep, they're all tarnished with the same brush now and rightly so, they brought it on themselves. I wont get on a plane if theres a Muslim family getting on. I just dont trust anyone from that way of life anymore.
Which I may add is a shame because theres good and bad in all races.

[andy_g]

I wont get on a plane if theres a Muslim family getting on.

so how many times has that happened then? must be a right bummer if you've just turned up to the airport, you're just checking in for the holiday flight you've spent all your savings on and you see a muslim family checking in aswell. what a shame to have to just turn around and go home. i feel for you, i really do.

[Big Niall]

Fowler they come under the terrorism act

criteria is different for those people. i understand what you say and probably some are innocent, but others have been caught with or had dealings with known terror cells. In other words they were actually seen to be doing wrong, and most probably been video'd or had their phone tapped and recorded.

So, tbh, they deserve everything they got.

i think you feel different if they got free and then they decided to go on the rampage, and as a result your family was killed by some numpty who, as barry puts it, strap a rucksack to there backs and blow folk up

think hard fowler. next time it could be you

I agree - to a point. I don't think guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I think they should be tried and have three possible verdicts

guilty - death penalty

Unsure - keep them locked up but in relevant comfort as some of them will be innocent and some guilty

Innocent - let them free.

[Big Niall]

I remember getting on a plane and there being three muslim men with the big beards and the muslim clothes and then we boarded and they all had aisle seats - one at the front, one middle and one back. I remember thinking "f*ck" - that is where terrorists would sit.

Probably the "wrong" thing to feel but I did.

If all passengers had guns then nobody could hijack a plane as they'd be shot. The metal detectors should be reversed and you cannot get on the plane unless you HAVE  gun

[Judge]

I remember getting on a plane and there being three muslim men with the big beards and the muslim clothes and then we boarded and they all had aisle seats - one at the front, one middle and one back. I remember thinking "f*ck" - that is where terrorists would sit.

Probably the "wrong" thing to feel but I did.

If all passengers had guns then nobody could hijack a plane as they'd be shot. The metal detectors should be reversed and you cannot get on the plane unless you HAVE  gun

i take three guns with me every time i fly emirates

secondly the bit highlighted in bold. im surprised you didnt get arrested as you seem to know where terrorists would sit

[Fowler_E7]

Fowler they come under the terrorism act

criteria is different for those people. i understand what you say and probably some are innocent, but others have been caught with or had dealings with known terror cells. In other words they were actually seen to be doing wrong, and most probably been video'd or had their phone tapped and recorded.

So, tbh, they deserve everything they got.

i think you feel different if they got free and then they decided to go on the rampage, and as a result your family was killed by some numpty who, as barry puts it, strap a rucksack to there backs and blow folk up

think hard fowler. next time it could be you

I agree - to a point. I don't think guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I think they should be tried and have three possible verdicts

guilty - death penalty

Unsure - keep them locked up but in relevant comfort as some of them will be innocent and some guilty

Innocent - let them free.

what can they be tried for? they been charged with nothing even though they have been imprisoned for years now. If they had a shred of evidence of anything im sure they put someone on trial.

[Judge]

Fowler they come under the terrorism act

criteria is different for those people. i understand what you say and probably some are innocent, but others have been caught with or had dealings with known terror cells. In other words they were actually seen to be doing wrong, and most probably been video'd or had their phone tapped and recorded.

So, tbh, they deserve everything they got.

i think you feel different if they got free and then they decided to go on the rampage, and as a result your family was killed by some numpty who, as barry puts it, strap a rucksack to there backs and blow folk up

think hard fowler. next time it could be you

I agree - to a point. I don't think guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I think they should be tried and have three possible verdicts

guilty - death penalty

Unsure - keep them locked up but in relevant comfort as some of them will be innocent and some guilty

Innocent - let them free.

what can they be tried for? they been charged with nothing even though they have been imprisoned for years now. If they had a shred of evidence of anything im sure they put someone on trial.

ring obama up and tell him that those folk at guatanamo can stay at your house free of charge

[Fowler_E7]

Fowler they come under the terrorism act

criteria is different for those people. i understand what you say and probably some are innocent, but others have been caught with or had dealings with known terror cells. In other words they were actually seen to be doing wrong, and most probably been video'd or had their phone tapped and recorded.

So, tbh, they deserve everything they got.

i think you feel different if they got free and then they decided to go on the rampage, and as a result your family was killed by some numpty who, as barry puts it, strap a rucksack to there backs and blow folk up

think hard fowler. next time it could be you

I agree - to a point. I don't think guilt can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I think they should be tried and have three possible verdicts

guilty - death penalty

Unsure - keep them locked up but in relevant comfort as some of them will be innocent and some guilty

Innocent - let them free.

what can they be tried for? they been charged with nothing even though they have been imprisoned for years now. If they had a shred of evidence of anything im sure they put someone on trial.

ring obama up and tell him that those folk at guatanamo can stay at your house free of charge

you got his number? most people who come my round house are innocent members of society who havnt been charged as criminals aswell 

[Judge]

how do i know that

[GOAT_2.0]

I wont get on a plane if theres a Muslim family getting on.

so how many times has that happened then? must be a right bummer if you've just turned up to the airport, you're just checking in for the holiday flight you've spent all your savings on and you see a muslim family checking in aswell. what a shame to have to just turn around and go home. i feel for you, i really do.

A muslim FAMILY?

Come on kids, we're going to blow up a plane today! 

That view is a bit over the top like, I thought I was bad, I do feel nervous myself sometimes like but I wouldn't not board a plane because there was muslims on it

What do you do, dive out the window of a bus if you see someone with a beard get on?

[Ciggy]

what can they be tried for? they been charged with nothing even though they have been imprisoned for years now. If they had a shred of evidence of anything im sure they put someone on trial.

You have to ask what they where doing there in the first place? Having a party? I doubt it.
If they went to help out the Taliban then they should be punished.

[Bad Bob]

My view on things: terrorism is a real and persistent threat in the world that needs to be treated with the utmost seriousness.  But, if we let the threat of terrorism undermine the rule of law, the safeguards of due process and the creed of 'innocent until proven guilty' (the very cornerstone of democratic law and order) then the terrorists have already won.  No one, not even suspected terrorists, should have to wait 5+ years in a cell before even the most preliminary of hearings.  No one, not even suspected terrorists, should be kept in the dark about the nature of the 'case' against them.  And no one, not even suspected terrorists, should be interrogated in ways that plumb the greyist margins of the Geneva Convention.  Closing Gitmo was an important and necessary step toward reclaiming the moral high ground that had been lost when those fighting terrorists started to sell out their own principles in pursuit of the task.

[Judge]

No one, not even suspected terrorists, should be kept in the dark

they were only kept in dark rooms thats all

[Fowler_E7]

My view on things: terrorism is a real and persistent threat in the world that needs to be treated with the utmost seriousness.  But, if we let the threat of terrorism undermine the rule of law, the safeguards of due process and the creed of 'innocent until proven guilty' (the very cornerstone of democratic law and order) then the terrorists have already won.  No one, not even suspected terrorists, should have to wait 5+ years in a cell before even the most preliminary of hearings.  No one, not even suspected terrorists, should be kept in the dark about the nature of the 'case' against them.  And no one, not even suspected terrorists, should be interrogated in ways that plumb the greyist margins of the Geneva Convention.  Closing Gitmo was an important and necessary step toward reclaiming the moral high ground that had been lost when those fighting terrorists started to sell out their own principles in pursuit of the task.

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