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[LFC2007]

Of course there is, and they can calculate how the universe is expanding, and they're discussing if it will keep expanding or instead have a big crunch. But it's impossible to explain how or why it had to happen in the first place. Of course I'm not talking about a God with white beard and dress, I'm just stating the point that we have little reasons to be arrogant to rule out things like paranormal activity or God since our science fails to explain many things.

That doesn't mean we have to be gullible and believe everything a tarot expert or a religious priest says, on the contrary scepticism is a good approach IMHO. But we can't be arrogant or too vehement to rule out explanations that are out of our scientific knowledge.

It may be impossible to explain how we got here conclusively, however, there are scientific theories that give fairly strong evidence as to how we got here, more so than any religiousd theory. You believe in a creator, but why Christ, why not Zeus or Jupiter? Why not Dharma? Why not Rael?

You choose one creator, in all likelihood because you were brought up to believe in Christianity.

[maypaxvobiscum]

you choose not to believe in ur human form*
do you think there is life after death?

I didn't say what my belief was, reading between the lines you are inferring that I do not believe in a 'creator'..... and I do not know if there is life after death otherwise I would not be on this forum I would be on the streets of Liverpool claiming to be THE Messiah.

i dont know if you belive there is a creator or not.

as u said: ''if u choose not to believe then there was never a contract''

is it possible that when you die you're elevated to another world? i watched the movie ''pan's labyrinth'' the other night and in that movie, the girl's human form dies however her soul is brought into another world where she is a princess. is such an idea... as a journalist might say, ''newsworthy''?

[toadinthehole]

I spent some time working in Scotland and once spent the night raising funds for charity by staying with other nutters in the underground vaults in Edinburgh. We had a psychic with us too and she brought in loads of spirits...eh not that kind!!! ...real spirits from beyond the grave!! It was supposed to be a sleepover, but did I sleep? Yeh right, I was terrified:O

[LFC2007]

fIts like 'mental tennis' this. Great for the creative juices!

In truth, there isn't exactly any real value in claim versus counter-claim at all really when it boils down to it. Particularly within the boundaries of subjects similar to this..On that note alone, along with the unfortunate fact that my 3 kids are still up and vying for my sparse attention away from the delicious fruits of any meaningful jibberish discussion on here. The pleasure will have to be declared as all mine...

However, not being the kind of Dog to let a bone pass by, unsavaged. I will address your swift, yet unsurprisingly curt response albeit briefly. And not at all with any note of veiled arrogance either. Promise.

Point 1. Stagnant argument then. Either way up, neither stance is valid. Until irrefutably proven otherwise.

2a. Block - Mental state of being, (contextually held) that through some triggered instance shuts down certain cognisant areas of the Brain (Conscience) maybe more apt. That otherwise allows free egress of any rationale capable of handling the situation at hand. Much akin to the requisite will-power necessary for the damnation of nicotine, amongst other 'evils' for want of a suitable analogy. I could go on about neuro-transmitters and their lack/profusion of yadda yadda... Basically, in this example 'Fear' of the unknown is likely to induce such a 'block' to the subscriber/believer call it what you will.

Hang on a mo...

2b.

I have no fear of exploring the possibility of the paranormal

But you find consummate ease with which to dismiss the word of others (who have experienced it) at the same time? Strange, i was under the illusion that you were quite flexible.

3. Good lad. Right answer.

4. In all probability, an accurate statement to offer. However, the intrusion of my own thoughts on the subject are not infact grounded in any Religion. (the consequences of which iam more than willing to entertain) Just, not for the purposes of my own agenda.

5. Clarification of your own beliefs might help proceedings descend into further - jibberish. Of course, thy will be done.

5b.

I base my views on empirical evidence or at the very least strong and consistent anecdotal evidence.

Do i detect an inconsistency in your standpoint, a chink in the armour....


Jibberish alert:

anecdotal

Tell me you didn't Google this article: Please!

Anecdotal approach (RE: Paranormal - Wiki)

"An anecdotal approach to the paranormal involves the collection of anecdotal evidence, which is an informal account of something that presumably happened. Anecdotes are often in contrast to empirical evidence, which are types of formal accounts that can be investigated using the scientific method".

when you could have casually 'plumped' for one of the other 4 options...unless of course the cracks are assuming abyss like proportions!

Anyway, gotta go, the kids are murdering the missus' state of well being...and im on a promise   

Interesting, I may be curt but your posts are inherently full of jibberish, are typically arrogant and take all of an hour for you to compose, must be that thesaurus you swallowed, indigestion is a horrible thing.

Anyhow to your points:

2a) In plain English, without the need to dip into out of context jibberish.....

There is no reason why there should be a mental 'block' that inhibits your ability to have an open mind when it comes to the paranormal, if that is what you are suggesting - it's hard to tell when you don't actually address the point. An addiction that is induced by physical means has little relevance in trying to apply the 'mental state of being' as you put it to ones approach to the paranormal.

2b) How exactly do I find consummate ease with which to dismiss the word of others? How have I done so? I have shown scepticism and replied in a light hearted sense to a few posts whilst making my opinions known. They can believe what they like, I am not to disprove what they say, I have my belief they have theirs - is that so difficult for you to comprehend? I was under the illusion that you may be able to discern between the two.


3) I know mate I was correct wasn't I, thanks for spotting that one out.

4) Again, that is much appreciated mate.


5) You'd know about jibberish mate, it's your forte. Had you read my views carefully, there would be little need for the jibberish, but suffice to say, it would keep on coming out irrespective of this.

5b) I don't think you have detected an inconsistency, perhaps I should clarify it just for you of course.....

There is no strong and consistent anecdotal evidence with which to confirm that the paranormal exists, only patchy information and inconsistent information. At the VERY LEAST I would expect this in order to pay more credence to it.

And how pathetic to suggest I googled the word anecdotal, is that not a common word one can use without facing an empty accusation? Perhaps this is a mark of your suspicion, and yet further evidence of why you are such an advocate of the paranormal. Perhaps the bulk of your own theories have been coming from wikipedia? Maybe you spotted it in your own google escapades.... Muppet

[Ciggy]

Thought this topic was about ghosts

Its like watching an episode of Countdown on here sometimes.

Layman's terms Lids

[kunilson]

oh this topic has been done in the pub many a time.

i believe in God, for my own reasons.....i dont practice many religious beliefs but the ones i do are my way of showing my faith. Religion is after all, a way of believing in something, it can be taken in so many different ways anyway there is no right way.

some say belief in these sort of things is because you are weak, and need to believe something is out there......but the people who say that may do something else that will re-assure themselves and help them feel "safe" which is not religious but serves the same purpose.

i approach things in a scientific way, but have an open mind, as even fundemental science can be proven wrong (string/M theory).
Anyone religious or not-religious who tries to impose their views on someone else is a tw@t. there's discussing it, then there's a line.

[Ciggy]

oh this topic has been done in the pub many a time.

i believe in God, for my own reasons.....i dont practice many religious beliefs but the ones i do are my way of showing my faith. Religion is after all, a way of believing in something, it can be taken in so many different ways anyway there is no right way.

some say belief in these sort of things is because you are weak, and need to believe something is out there......but the people who say that may do something else that will re-assure themselves and help them feel "safe" which is not religious but serves the same purpose.

i approach things in a scientific way, but have an open mind, as even fundemental science can be proven wrong (string/M theory).
Anyone religious or not-religious who tries to impose their views on someone else is a tw@t. there's discussing it, then there's a line.

But have you ever een a ghost and sh!t yer kecks   

[kunilson]

oh this topic has been done in the pub many a time.

i believe in God, for my own reasons.....i dont practice many religious beliefs but the ones i do are my way of showing my faith. Religion is after all, a way of believing in something, it can be taken in so many different ways anyway there is no right way.

some say belief in these sort of things is because you are weak, and need to believe something is out there......but the people who say that may do something else that will re-assure themselves and help them feel "safe" which is not religious but serves the same purpose.

i approach things in a scientific way, but have an open mind, as even fundemental science can be proven wrong (string/M theory).
Anyone religious or not-religious who tries to impose their views on someone else is a tw@t. there's discussing it, then there's a line.

But have you ever een a ghost and sh!t yer kecks   

nah not yet  i thought that topic ended on like page 2? 

title should change to

get your ghostly/godly/afterlife/ouji/ encounters and theories on life and sh1t here.

[destro]

Woooooo So Scary ??

http://www.angelsghosts.com/girl_ghost_video.html

http://www.studentbunk.com/saddleworth-moor.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoJUBW9CI8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n5BHGjlS-H0

Just for all you believers out there !

Enjoy

[Ciggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEP0usvErRI

Dirty @rse Mary
   

[Paul C]

oh this topic has been done in the pub many a time.

i believe in God, for my own reasons.....i dont practice many religious beliefs but the ones i do are my way of showing my faith. Religion is after all, a way of believing in something, it can be taken in so many different ways anyway there is no right way.

some say belief in these sort of things is because you are weak, and need to believe something is out there......but the people who say that may do something else that will re-assure themselves and help them feel "safe" which is not religious but serves the same purpose.

i approach things in a scientific way, but have an open mind, as even fundemental science can be proven wrong (string/M theory).
Anyone religious or not-religious who tries to impose their views on someone else is a tw@t. there's discussing it, then there's a line.

But have you ever een a ghost and sh!t yer kecks   

lmfao.

When I was younger I was playing basketball round the side of the house, next to the house is a path, I jumped up to grab a rebound and as I turned in the air I could see over the fence and I fookin swear down now their was a glowing floating figure, I didn't even check it out, I grabbed the ball and ran in the house, my mates and parents said I was white as a 'ghost', I never played bball in the dark again!!!     

[kunilson]

get your ghostly/godly/afterlife/ouji/ encounters and theories on life and sh1t/mary d1ck loving here

[Ciggy]

get your ghostly/godly/afterlife/ouji/ encounters and theories on life and sh1t/mary d1ck loving here

Dont forget a bit of University Challenge thrown in for good measure aswell

[Sabre]

Well Ciggy, it's a good thing there's room for all kind of posts. And when it comes to ghosts, I have associated to my mind this guys



I loved the movie when I was a teenager

[kunilson]

yeah Bill Murray's glory days, the man was a comedy genius....best ghost film evaaarrrr!

but sigourney weaver will never look fit in my eyes ever. even if she tries to look like a woman i keep remembering aliens.
now thats what i call off topic!