Downloading is wrong - And illegal

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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:39 pm

Sabre wrote:
whats the difference bewteen buying a pirate film and downloading it yourself tho?


When I download, nobody makes profit. In real *piracy* though, some :censored: make profit using and abusing chinese or other humble people to make their profit. Profit made with film industry's work.

but u make a profit by saving money and they make a loss. this is a good debate but cant you see that what u r doing is wrong and illegal? :Oo:
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Postby inglis5 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:39 pm

dawson99 wrote:whats the difference bewteen buying a pirate film and downloading it yourself tho?

The difference between buying pirated films and downloading them for free is that when you buy pirated films the money normally goes to criminals, when you donwload, there may be a reduction in revenue for the studios.

As I've said I don't steal films, but if I did I'd be a lot happier downloading than giving my money to some crime syndicate.
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Postby hawkmoon269 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:40 pm

drummerphil wrote:anybody want a dvd rip of king kong,its a monster film really is :laugh:

I got have way through it and turned it off!
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Postby 66-1137139704 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:53 pm

dawson99 wrote:can everyone stop talking about downloading the odd song. FFS all im saying is that due to epople downloading films (and dont lie, most will not buy a copy as well) then it is killing the industry and meaning there is less quality and more popcorn rubbish

Piracy is due to the high costs of products that have high demand.
Those who can afford the better quality of original will buy,those who cannot will either not buy or will look for cheaper alternatives...its that simple.

I can bet my arm and leg that the windows software that you are using now is pirated  :)
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:54 pm

u owe me an arm and a leg mate
im a lot of things but im not a thief
cant believe im being serious, very undawsonlike, will go look at some flange now :p
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Postby drummerphil » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:55 pm

hawkmoon269 wrote:
drummerphil wrote:anybody want a dvd rip of king kong,its a monster film really is :laugh:

I got have way through it and turned it off!

be honest with you i wasnt that impressed either.I couldnt quite work out why Kong was after long john silver and captain hook.............
i suppose you get what you pay for with a pirate film..... :D
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Postby hawkmoon269 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:01 pm

drummerphil wrote:
hawkmoon269 wrote:
drummerphil wrote:anybody want a dvd rip of king kong,its a monster film really is :laugh:

I got have way through it and turned it off!

be honest with you i wasnt that impressed either.I couldnt quite work out why Kong was after long john silver and captain hook.............
i suppose you get what you pay for with a pirate film..... :D

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Postby laza » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:05 pm

dawson99 wrote:u owe me an arm and a leg mate
im a lot of things but im not a thief
cant believe im being serious, very undawsonlike, will go look at some flange now :p

this is what happens when you visit a cinema store  :D
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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:07 pm

MudFace wrote:Piracy is due to the high costs of products that have high demand.
Those who can afford the better quality of original will buy,those who cannot will either not buy or will look for cheaper alternatives...its that simple.

I'm in the process of ordering some dvds from a legitimate supplier in hong kong they are costing me less than a third of the uk price . One film is only £2.20 and yet HMV in London want £19.99 .

Not suprising that some folk prefer to take the download option.
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Postby 2520years » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:14 pm

If you've got fewer morals than most Dawson, why don't you get off your soapbox?


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Postby 66-1137139704 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:17 pm

dawson99 wrote:u owe me an arm and a leg mate
im a lot of things but im not a thief
cant believe im being serious, very undawsonlike, will go look at some flange now :p

I cannot believe that none of all the software that you are using was got illegally....even through sharing,from a friend.

If that the case then you are very rich or you use very little software.
I see you are using a banner as a part of your signature,which means you are probably using Macromedia stusion.Did you buy that?

And i dont owe you anything coz i find it hard to believe you :)
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Postby Sabre » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:19 pm

Even using the coyote might be illegal for making your banner, for that matter.

AS a computer scientist, piracy affects me aswell. Piracy has been in computers much before than in the film industry.

WHen I'm at work, I would never allow my boss to use a pirated software. Why?? because he'd be using that software to make profit. But I wouldn't tell anything to him if he wanted it for personal use. In fact, Software companies that suffered piracy as much as the industry, do allow to experience the real thing (photoshop for instance) for 30 days before purchasing. This is because they have been facing piracy for more time than the *INDUSTRY* of films, and because they've been smarter to create alternatives like the "30 days evaluation" thingy.

There will always be people who'd still download and crack photoshop, but there are many grateful users that convinced of the evaluation period they buy the product. I apply the same philosophy to eerything else. I'm a thief? ok :)  The police will catch me then.
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Postby 66-1137139704 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:28 pm

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Postby Judge » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:29 pm

interpol's on there way now sabre.............run..........run...........run :D
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:32 pm

mudface. im at work now (yes, wheneevr im on here im at work, when i do my work, which is never as im on here) but at home i paid £1500 for a pc, massive flat screen and all the software i need.

so that arm and legs in the post? :p

i just like my independant quirky films and due to piracy less are being made. thats all im saying
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