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Postby red37 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:41 pm

A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:41 pm

Number 9 wrote:What is the difference between racism and sectarianism? ???

Be careful with answers please! :D

Isn't it obvious?
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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:42 pm

Number 9 wrote:What is the difference between racism and sectarianism? ???

Be careful with answers please! :D

sectarianism is to do with religious observance and not down to black or white.
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:44 pm

red37 wrote:A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:

:nod

You share the same hatred as I do. It's not as promanant as that here, but there are certain "ism's" for lack of want of a better word, that are creeping in to the general population here, and it's youngsters, and sadly sometimes adults that do it. It's the internet and those f*cking social networking sh*te.
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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:49 pm

red37 wrote:A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:

you see your big mistake there is to say across London and the South east atm.

its only in some areas, in essex you would not her it much but soon you will as there are lots monving in from east london.

you can not say its the whole of the south east, that is what starts problems when someone starts taring a whole area with the same view.
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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:51 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
red37 wrote:A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:

:nod

You share the same hatred as I do. It's not as promanant as that here, but there are certain "ism's" for lack of want of a better word, that are creeping in to the general population here, and it's youngsters, and sadly sometimes adults that do it. It's the internet and those f*cking social networking sh*te.

oi i use them site, take it back or i will kick you to the curb man....talk to the hand.

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Postby dawson99 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:51 pm

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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:03 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
red37 wrote:A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:

:nod

You share the same hatred as I do. It's not as promanant as that here, but there are certain "ism's" for lack of want of a better word, that are creeping in to the general population here, and it's youngsters, and sadly sometimes adults that do it. It's the internet and those f*cking social networking sh*te.

oi i use them site, take it back or i will kick you to the curb man....talk to the hand.

lol

Twitter to the hand, cause the Facebook aint listenin.
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Postby Number 9 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:03 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Number 9 wrote:What is the difference between racism and sectarianism? ???

Be careful with answers please! :D

sectarianism is to do with religious observance and not down to black or white.

Not really because racism is not as simple as black or white or religious observance!!
For example,in the middle east we have the hatred with the Gaza strip VS Israel.
Neither are black or white really when you look at them,in fact they are pretty much the same!
Racism is a very loose term.

Sectarianism however is probably best described as racism within a race!Tribal conflicts.

Probably worse than racism giving the fact that in 90% of English cities a kid can get killed for crossing the wrong road,entering the wrong turf because of "where he is from"
As for religious observance,it may be defined that way on wiki if ya look but it has fu,ck all to do with sectarianism.
Gang hatred is sectarianism
hatred because someone has different views is the same
hatred because of a lot of things is sectarian

RACISM IS A HATRED TOWARDS A RACE!!GET IT??
If I kill someone because he is black I am racist...If i kill someone because he stumbled on my turf and happened to be black I AM SECTARIAN!!

NOT THAT I WOULD OR EVER CONDONE SUCH ACTIONS THEY DISGUST ME!!

But hopefully ya get what I mean!





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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:06 pm

Number 9 wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Number 9 wrote:What is the difference between racism and sectarianism? ???

Be careful with answers please! :D

sectarianism is to do with religious observance and not down to black or white.

Not really because racism is not as simple as black or white or religious observance!!
For example,in the middle east we have the hatred with the Gaza strip VS Israel.
Neither are black or white really when you look at them,in fact they are pretty much the same!
Racism is a very loose term.

Sectarianism however is probably best described as racism within a race!Tribal conflicts.

Probably worse than racism giving the fact that in 90% of English cities a kid can get killed for crossing the wrong road,entering the wrong turf because of "where he is from"
As for religious observance,it may be defined that way on wiki if ya look but it has fu,ck all to do with sectarianism.
Gang hatred is sectarianism
hatred because someone has different views is the same
hatred because of a lot of things is sectarian

RACISM IS A HATRED TOWARDS A RACE!!GET IT??
If I kill someone because he is black I am racist...If i kill someone because he stumbled on my turf and happened to be black I AM SECTARIAN!!

NOT THAT I WOULD OR EVER CONDONE SUCH ACTIONS THEY DISGUST ME!!

But hopefully ya get what I mean!





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hmm me think some been looking stuff up lol
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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:06 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
red37 wrote:A thing which REALLY f*cks me off - is this adopted 'accent' that seems to be in vogue across London and the South east atm.

Where every sentence ends with a typical phrase such as - 'on da streets init laaaike' etc... They speak like absolute retards. Its not just blacks either its BOTH. Male and Female - there seems to be a whole 'new' way of talking that defies ALL education they may or may not subscribe to.

F*cking hate it  :angry:

:nod

You share the same hatred as I do. It's not as promanant as that here, but there are certain "ism's" for lack of want of a better word, that are creeping in to the general population here, and it's youngsters, and sadly sometimes adults that do it. It's the internet and those f*cking social networking sh*te.

oi i use them site, take it back or i will kick you to the curb man....talk to the hand.

lol

Twitter to the hand, cause the Facebook aint listenin.

lol  :D
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Postby Number 9 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:16 pm

Im sectarian towards Everton fans and Judge!! :nod
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Postby Reg » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:32 pm

Its tribalism with a small t. People want to conform to a group, they want to be associated with chosen others who project an image.

Housing riots are a different issue and are teh result to short term convenience to stage the Olympics. When people get sufficiently pi$$ed off they´ll move thus there will be a natural solution but it will take 10 years. But thats ok.

Racism occurs when one tribal group feels threatened by another. The chinese community is Liverpool has historically got on with everyone for 200 years - no threats perceived or otherwise. The Pakistani community in Lancashire has always blended in well until a section of it began to fall out with white youths, but thats reversable.

Our black brothers living in high density areas in London are a different matter because after so many years they still havent worked out how, why and where they fit inot the community. From this frustration comes negative reaction. Goodness knows what the solution is but first they have to make the conscious decision they do actually want to contribute to society and help create a better Britain.
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Postby lakes10 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:41 pm

Reg wrote:Its tribalism with a small t. People want to conform to a group, they want to be associated with chosen others who project an image.

Housing riots are a different issue and are teh result to short term convenience to stage the Olympics. When people get sufficiently pi$$ed off they´ll move thus there will be a natural solution but it will take 10 years. But thats ok.

Racism occurs when one tribal group feels threatened by another. The chinese community is Liverpool has historically got on with everyone for 200 years - no threats perceived or otherwise. The Pakistani community in Lancashire has always blended in well until a section of it began to fall out with white youths, but thats reversable.

Our black brothers living in high density areas in London are a different matter because after so many years they still havent worked out how, why and where they fit inot the community. From this frustration comes negative reaction. Goodness knows what the solution is but first they have to make the conscious decision they do actually want to contribute to society and help create a better Britain.

but when some do Reg they are often put down due to us thinking they are just the same as the ones that dont.

I was talking to a guy who was telling me that all whites hate him and other blacks, he was always saying "you english" i pointed out to him that his dad was born in london, he was born in london and he was english.

he could not understand that most white english have no problem him blacks.........we spend most of our time picking on the chavs.
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Postby Number 9 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:04 pm

Lakes your biggest problem is that dealing with things like this is your job!

"People tell me!..."I hear that" are conformation enough that you have not experienced any level of sectarianism or racism!
TBH its sounds like you have had a very cushioned and mollycoddled life.
To understand something you need to be there................
To simplify..If I said a bacon butty tasted better on its own or better with HP which would you believe if you tasted neither?

Read all the books ya want,get all the education you want and i wish you every success......BUT DONT TRY TO preach to people you dont understand!

As for that Di'ck above a swift slap would suffice,why do that though when you can justify another morons job in saying why he was not slapped...then no one gets hurt
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