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Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world,

is this based on converts or the fact that in most muslim nations they have a larger number of children per family.

[Judge]

jbg is bin laden. of course he would say all that

Judge, JBG has excellent points mate and they are merely facts! I don't think at all that Bin Ladin is going against the Americans because they are christians and their lifestyles is unislamic, its more politics than culture and religion. Because if Bin Ladin went against Christian culture and lifestyles, Bin Ladin would have bombed all the western countries isn't that true? Canada is very similar to the U.S, so why we don't hear any Terrorist attacks there? This is politics.

i know Khalid bin laden.

i did live in egypt you know

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jbg is bin laden. of course he would say all that

Judge, JBG has excellent points mate and they are merely facts! I don't think at all that Bin Ladin is going against the Americans because they are christians and their lifestyles is unislamic, its more politics than culture and religion. Because if Bin Ladin went against Christian culture and lifestyles, Bin Ladin would have bombed all the western countries isn't that true? Canada is very similar to the U.S, so why we don't hear any Terrorist attacks there? This is politics.

They arnt FACTS  Metalhead just opinion. Anyone who compares the West's actions to Hitler's ,lets just say I feel their opinion is questionable.

I dont want to get in a argument with anyone but ffs keep it real. Hitler was responsible for the death/execution of 5 million Jews. 20million Russians lost their lives defending their country, and another 15million people from various nations including Britain.

Hitler started it - he invaded Poland, watch Fawlty Towers if you dont believe me.

Bin LADEN supports Sharia law, he is one of 55 children of a father who had 22 wives(But only 4 at a time ). He started the war of terror against the West after the Saudis turned down his offer to defend Saudi against Iraq.

[Judge]

jbg is bin laden. of course he would say all that

JBG, Judge has excellent points mate and they are merely facts! I don't think at all that Bin Ladin is going against the Americans because they are christians and their lifestyles is unislamic, its more politics than culture and religion. Because if Bin Ladin went against Christian culture and lifestyles, Bin Ladin would have bombed all the western countries isn't that true? Canada is very similar to the U.S, so why we don't hear any Terrorist attacks there? This is politics.

They arnt FACTS  Metalhead just opinion. Anyone who compares the West's actions to Hitler's ,lets just say I feel their opinion is questionable.

I dont want to get in a argument with anyone but ffs keep it real. Hitler was responsible for the death/execution of 5 million Jews. 20million Russians lost their lives defending their country, and another 15million people from various nations including Britain.

Hitler started it - he invaded Poland, watch Fawlty Towers if you dont believe me.

Bin LADEN supports Sharia law, he is one of 55 children of a father who had 22 wives(But only 4 at a time ). He started the war of terror against the West after the Saudis turned down his offer to defend Saudi against Iraq.

bin laden, wot a kunt

[woof woof !]

Bin Laden is a bad man but he's not a "monster" (like, for example, Saddam was) and history will hold him to be no more be held morally culpable than Bush Senior and Junior and Blair.

Guess it depends on who writes the history . 

To describe Bin Laden as a "Bad Man" is surely the greatest understatement I've ever encountered . Surpassing even the one I read years ago that stated "Hitler didn't like Jewish people"

I offer no defence to the comments regarding the current US president other than to plead that he's mentally incompetent and will soon be gone , Bin Laden and his cronies however will be with for years and years to come .

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There is a rumour that Adolph Hitler was found alive and well in 1998, and was asked to return to germany as Fuerer. The offer was withdrawn when Hitlers reply to the question was ... "OK, but no more Mr Nice Guy."

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Tony Parsons latest column in the Mirror, thsi guy talks some sense and has the balls to talk the truth




WHY MUST WE PAY MR BIGAMY'S BILL?
2 October 2006

FANATICAL religious firebrand seeks extra wives. Must enjoy unkempt beards, effigy burning and watching beheadings on militant Islamist websites. Good sense of humour essential. No timewasters, smokers or infidels.

Between collecting £700 a month in benefits and preaching death to Western whoremongers, Abu Izzadeen - last seen screaming abuse at the Home Secretary for daring to show his face in a Muslim neighbourhood - has found time to trawl the internet for a few extra wives.

And no parody of Abu's lonely-hearts ad could possibly do justice to the real thing.

No mickey-take could ever come close to the absurdity of what really happened when the nation's number one religious nutcase went looking for the wife of his dreams.

And the other wife of his dreams. And the other wife of his dreams. Using the internet introduction agency www.muslimintro.com, Izzadeen blushingly confessed to looking for "a second, third or fourth wife."

Modestly describing his personality as, "passionate, bold, witty and sensitive" our wild-eyed Romeo specified that all potential brides had to be between 16 and 40 and revealed that his hobbies are praying five times a day, kung fu and going to the gym.

And here's the best bit, girls - Abu says that his most attractive feature is that he has an unusually long one. Beard, that is. And as the mocking laughter subsides, a small voice asks - are the British people the biggest mugs that ever walked the planet?

Here's a man who praises murderers who would destroy the state that feeds, clothes and houses his family. Now he wants to shack up with a few more wives - under Islamic law, of course, not the law of the land, which rather frowns on bigamy.

And who do you reckon will pay for the upkeep of those extra wives? Him or you? With hook-handed Abu Hamza in jail for inciting murder and Omar Bakri now residing in Lebanon - although Bakri did desperately try to come back when the bombs started getting too close to his kilt for comfort - Abu Izzadeen, who was once an electrician called Trevor, is the most prominent terror groupie in the country.

And we fund every part of Ayatollah Trevor's lavish lifestyle.

We - you, me and everyone else who pays tax in this madhouse - coughs up for the Ayatollah Trevor's jobseeker's allowance, housing benefit, council tax, child benefit (he already has one wife and three children).

We may be Satan's spawn, but we sure are generous.

The Ayatollah Trevor's search for love is a sick joke, of course.

Sensitive? This is the man so sensitive that he described those innocent souls slaughtered in the 7/7 bombings as "animals" and "cowards."

Muscular and fit? Not so muscular and fit that he can stand to be a man and get a job.

But if the Ayatollah Trevor is a joke, then he's a joke that is no longer funny

Seriously - why the hell do we pay his way in the world?

Why do we let a repulsive hate-filled sponger get away with praising murder while poncing off the state?

Why do we wipe his bottom? Are we quite mad?

Because if we are laughing at the Ayatollah Trevor then he is surely laughing even louder at us.

All the way to the gym, not to mention the bank

[Ciggy]

Why hasnt this Ayatollah Trevor been feckin deported ?
Id love someone from the BNP or the NF to carry on like this in the Middle East.

Love the way he kicked off at the home secretary for showing up in the East End, since when can we not go to places in our own country cause he says its not aloud for none muslims???

If we want to go to the East End and sing Knees Up Mother Brown, we feckin well will.

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Well, I've sat here tonight with me and me beers, and we've come to the conclusion.......... Religion is the route of global evil.

We wont be around when it happens most likely, but when the world does end (before the ice caps melt or big rocks falling out the sky) it will be down to one thing............human beings !! and one I dont give a f*ck right now because I'm tipsy and two I'm selfish and aint going to fight a losing battle, to see it happen.

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yield, you are showing your age here mate, especially arguing with woof about these matters, some of us know who he is and where he has been, in fact he was probably in afghanistan before your dad was born.

you have to admit that comparing the taliban to someone denying abortion is feeble, the catholic church forbids it mate, and the use of condoms, are you going to put the catholic church on a par with the taliban now?

i'm not arguing with him at all
i'm simply putting my point across
i gathered that woof is indeed older
than me and of course i do indeed
respect older people.
i'm sure he's been to places i can
only dream of going
but i feel i have the right to post my opinion.

i will compare the christian right of america
which are known as evalanglists to the likes of
the taliban, because they are similar in their
views of society and the role of women
in society. of course the christian right dont
shoot women in the head and they dont
go around killing their own people, but
they show a backward thinking just like the
taliban and this has nothing to do with the catholic
church, the christian right has nothing do with
the catholic church.

bush is using evalanglism and god to justify his actions
in the middle east, surely you can see he and the other neo-conservatives who believe in the christian right are just as bad as islamic fundamentalists?

i'm probs going to be told im wrong, but im my eyes the christian right of america and american policy are just as
bad as bin laden.

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I offer no defence to the comments regarding the current US president other than to plead that he's mentally incompetent and will soon be gone , Bin Laden and his cronies however will be with for years and years to come .

its not just bush, the christian right will be around for years to come aswell and will no doubt use their power to get another president in who can live up to what they want. ronald reagan was orignally instilled with the support of the christian right but failed to live up to what they wanted
need i say more?

i will stop now, but there are two parts to every conflict and it seems people are prepared to allow americas actions past and present to go unnoticed.

[JBG]

Bin Laden is a bad man but he's not a "monster" (like, for example, Saddam was) and history will hold him to be no more be held morally culpable than Bush Senior and Junior and Blair.

Guess it depends on who writes the history . 

To describe Bin Laden as a "Bad Man" is surely the greatest understatement I've ever encountered . Surpassing even the one I read years ago that stated "Hitler didn't like Jewish people"

I offer no defence to the comments regarding the current US president other than to plead that he's mentally incompetent and will soon be gone , Bin Laden and his cronies however will be with for years and years to come .

How is it an understatement, Woof? I mean, a sense of perspective here is needed among the hysteria. Bin Laden's gang has been responsible for thousands of deaths, but in the pantheon of history's tyrants and monsters he doesn't feature at all.

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Hysteria ?  what hysteria . Are you referring to the "over the top" reaction in the west to a couple of "Bad men " flying two plane loads of innocents into a building ? A trainload of people being blown to bits in Madrid ? A bus load of equally innocent people on their way to work meeting a similar fate in London ? Yeah your right mate , the OTT reaction is completely uncalled for ,christ sake ,people in the west need to get a grip and stop being so hysterical , it is after all only the actions of a couple of "bad men" .

As for "sense of perspective " if you can't see that describing Bin Laden as a "bad man " is an understatement then I suggest you book an appointment at your nearest optician . Perhaps you think that a persons moral stature is measured puely by the number of people they have killed ? .In which case compared to the likes of Stalin , Hitler , Pol Pot etc , then you are correct and Bin Laden is just a bad man , the minute he turns up at the local magistrates he can be given a 6 month suspended sentence and 24 hrs community service and we can all concentrate on the real threat to world peace which is apparently those nasty anti abortionists in the USA .

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[JBG]

Yes, it is hysteria. 9/11 shouldn't have been a shock: it was chickens coming home to roost for America's reckless policies in the Middle East since the late 1940s. One million Algerians dead, half a million Iraqi children dead, hundred of thousands of Palestinian refugee camps in Jordan and southern Lebanon, American made weapons being killing Palestinians on an almost daily basis, all of which were eventually cause a backlash from the Muslim world. These people are fighting back with the only effective weapon they can muster against the West: the suicide bomber and terror.

I don't see Bin Laden as being a tyrant or anything like that, and his ultimate role in history will be relatively minor. Hysteria has been whipped up across the West in which Saddam is likened to Hitler and Bin Laden to the devil, when the reality is that both are relatively minor historic figures who can never amount (in themselves) as a threat to the West on the scale that say, Hitler or Stalin, were. Those in the West who have their own agenda in that part of the world have massively overstated the threat from both, in my opinion.