damjan193 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:24 pm wrote:Boocity » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:11 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:09 pm wrote:Van Gaal still hasn't got them right, they are as porous as us at the back it's just that they have got a great keeper and luck on their side.
That's the point,they are not a good side, just shows how far we have fallen, so depressed
In many ways they're very similar to us from last season. A few world class players surrounded by average and below average teammates.
7_Kewell » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:58 pm wrote:failing that, Russell Grant
Doeboy » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:23 pm wrote:Really do hate talking about replacements when we have a manager but this situation has a certain enivebility about it. This has happened all too soon for Rodgers IMO. The highs of last season and the lows of this year. Losing a world class player that was integral to your system. I just don't think Rodgers has enough experience to deal with it all and that's not having a pop at him as most managers with his level of experience would find all that and the level of expectation tough to deal with.
Who knows, if he can turn around the current situation it may ultimately prove to be the making of him as a manager but how long do you give it? As I said a few days back, the Lfc managers job is not one where you can spend too much time learning on the job. I do think last season's achievements will give him some time to sort it out however with a potential banana skin of a tie midweek and Arsenal next week, it would be a brave man who says BR will still be here if those 2 games go pear shaped.
Dundreamin is back » Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:35 pm wrote:The King in as caretaker then in the summer Rafa. BR has lost the dressing room,the fans and I can't see FSG putting up with it much longer especially with the investment they have put in the squad and ground. We are basically back to the Hodgson era
damjan193 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:02 pm wrote:Stu the Red » Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:39 pm wrote:damjan193 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:08 pm wrote:At this point, I'd honestly pay a lot of money to see Stu appointed as manager. You're even more arrogant than Rodgers mate. Anyway, nice to see you posting.
Arrogant? No mate, not in the slightest, I can take being called what I am... but that's rubbish.
I am extremely open minded, self confident and I know what I'm talking about. I also learn and am not affraid to learn off ANYONE. I also don't believe in doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Flexible and tactically I'd wipe the floor with Rodgers.
I called this from the Chelsea game last season and I was right. I could see then his weakness, also his insistance on Gerrard who, lets face it, should have been replaced ages ago, then there was the summer, I was told how we finished second and despite the loss of Luis we don't need anyone else just squad filllers... I could see it coming a mile off mate. I wasn't guessing during our spats, I was making valid and correct points.
Oh come on mate, you didn't "call" anything, you were just your usual negative self like you always are. Were you also not guessing when you said that we would finish 7th or 6th at best last season? You have some football knowledge mate, not denying that, but to actually believe that you could do a better job as a manager at the highest level than the people that are in charge just shows that you're not just arrogant but crazy as well. I know your kind Stu. People like you are experts in everything, politics, economy, sports, all of it. But they usually sit in parks and play chess, drink cheep beer and talk about how great the 60's were.
Doeboy » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:23 pm wrote:Really do hate talking about replacements when we have a manager but this situation has a certain enivebility about it. This has happened all too soon for Rodgers IMO. The highs of last season and the lows of this year. Losing a world class player that was integral to your system. I just don't think Rodgers has enough experience to deal with it all and that's not having a pop at him as most managers with his level of experience would find all that and the level of expectation tough to deal with.
Who knows, if he can turn around the current situation it may ultimately prove to be the making of him as a manager but how long do you give it? As I said a few days back, the Lfc managers job is not one where you can spend too much time learning on the job. I do think last season's achievements will give him some time to sort it out however with a potential banana skin of a tie midweek and Arsenal next week, it would be a brave man who says BR will still be here if those 2 games go pear shaped.
7_Kewell » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:20 pm wrote:What would you do Stu, if you were in FSG position? Keep with BR until the summer and then sit down and think about it all, or act now?
Personally, I think he still deserves time, but suspect the xmas run of matches will probably make or break him.
Stu the Red » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:50 pm wrote:That is complete and utter garbage putting it down to me being negative. I'm a very balanced person to be quite honest, I say what I see and my heart never rules my head when it comes down to football. I said sixth or seventh last season as I didn't believe the side to be good enough, Henderson, Sterling and Flannagan all suprised me and contributed well... but they were boosted a level and played every game at one and a half nil up because of Suarez. As good as Luis was, I didn't think he was as good as he was last sesaon, thats one of the best seasons I've ever seen from any player in this league. 15 assists, 31 league goals (doesn't take pens) and a whole load of other key passes and pressing that won us games. As soon as he left and our signings were confirmed and happening I knew the money was being wasted, I said it at the time and was told I was wrong, but obviously I wasn't.
To then say its crazy and arrogant because I believe I could do a better job than Rodgers is quite odd, you actually don't me or about my experiences within the game or anything to be quite honest. I literally live for footy and have done since I was born. I am absolutely telling you, I know how to set a side up as well and I understand the differences in the levels of players probably better than most.
As for the other things about "knowing my kind", thats exactly the point.., you don't at all. I only believe in having strong opinions on something you're knowledgable in. I'm also more than happy to listen and take on board what people say especially if they have a valid point regardless of their standing in my own personal opinion, their qualifications or whatever.
I've met hundreds of people who are well qualified and some of them are COMPLETELY clueless when it comes to certain area's of the game, but they can put on a good coaching session on so they have a job.., yet they can't tell you who their best players are... people don't realise how inbred the game is now. EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYONE... from Prescot Cables, to Croyden, to Juventus... they all know about every player, they all know each other, Tony Pulis when he was at palace was looking at two lads from Prescot Cables, I don't agree with the way he sets his teams up, but f*ck me the man knows his stuff. I'm telling you now, give me £200,000,000 over 5 transfer windows on a side finishing seventh and I'd easily cement a top four place through planning and preperation, it would be practically impossible not too. Team spirit, the correct tactical setup for the players you have (usually helps, try it sometime Brendan), game planning and squad management, also I'd have the balls to drop and move players out of the side who aren't performing. I wouldn't try and bash square pegs into round holes either.
killerp » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:29 am wrote:Our problems do not end with Rodgers, as I have said before our football issues go all the way back to Boston. While we have non-football people appointing inept staff to run the club, the trend of gambling with below par managers and below average players will continue. After seeing Rodgers in the transfer market with a decent warchest there is no doubt he should be relegated to youth team manager at best. I have no confidence that FSG can find a manager to "fix" our problems.
With Man U clearly back on track....i'd say the top 4 is full until Arsenal implode or the oil wells run dry. I think the height of our future achievements will be having the odd skirmish with Spurs and Everton at 5th.
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