maguskwt » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:20 am wrote:Dont understand myself why agger doesnt play more often than skrtl and why skrtle is seemingly ahead of agger in the pecking order, , espe ially considering the type of football br plays at the back. These are the two decisions i dont understand from BR. First, he bought a keeper who is comfortable as feck with the ball at his feet and refuses to reconcile with one best suited for the way we play. Second, he doesnt use a cb who is best suited for the way we play ahead of one who makes careless mistakes.
Stu the Red » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:33 am wrote:maguskwt » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:20 am wrote:Dont understand myself why agger doesnt play more often than skrtl and why skrtle is seemingly ahead of agger in the pecking order, , espe ially considering the type of football br plays at the back. These are the two decisions i dont understand from BR. First, he bought a keeper who is comfortable as feck with the ball at his feet and refuses to reconcile with one best suited for the way we play. Second, he doesnt use a cb who is best suited for the way we play ahead of one who makes careless mistakes.
Good post, Absolutely nail on head.
Add that to the fact that Agger and Reina in terms of quality are far and away ahead of Mignolet and Skrtel as well and really is baffling. Its clearly down to wages and age as in terms of quality of player and ability to play in the system, Reina and Agger are perfect.
It really annoys me the club and Rodgers have taken his approach and are allowing two of our best players to leave for around £10,000,000 in total, yet we spunk £10,000,000 on players like Origi or £21,000,000 on players like Illori, Alberto and Aspas.
It seems like the club are intent on not signing anyone over the age of 24 (Lambert excluded). But the reality is, you could end up signing a player who goes on as long as McAllister and is of a similar level at a similar age, signing a 29 year old isn't always a bad thing. (I wouldn't do it on football manager, but real life is a different story).
only me » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:23 am wrote:Stu the Red » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:33 am wrote:maguskwt » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:20 am wrote:Dont understand myself why agger doesnt play more often than skrtl and why skrtle is seemingly ahead of agger in the pecking order, , espe ially considering the type of football br plays at the back. These are the two decisions i dont understand from BR. First, he bought a keeper who is comfortable as feck with the ball at his feet and refuses to reconcile with one best suited for the way we play. Second, he doesnt use a cb who is best suited for the way we play ahead of one who makes careless mistakes.
Good post, Absolutely nail on head.
Add that to the fact that Agger and Reina in terms of quality are far and away ahead of Mignolet and Skrtel as well and really is baffling. Its clearly down to wages and age as in terms of quality of player and ability to play in the system, Reina and Agger are perfect.
It really annoys me the club and Rodgers have taken his approach and are allowing two of our best players to leave for around £10,000,000 in total, yet we spunk £10,000,000 on players like Origi or £21,000,000 on players like Illori, Alberto and Aspas.
It seems like the club are intent on not signing anyone over the age of 24 (Lambert excluded). But the reality is, you could end up signing a player who goes on as long as McAllister and is of a similar level at a similar age, signing a 29 year old isn't always a bad thing. (I wouldn't do it on football manager, but real life is a different story).
I think the answer is pretty simple ,Agger is made of glass ,he just can't keep himself healthy and in a demanding role where physical contact is a must he is just not able to avoid injuries.
Their is no question Daniel is far better then Skertel but what can you do when he is constant visitor at the physios office? Now that Lovern joined we are likely to see Sakho and Dejan and the starting pair.
Stu the Red » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:33 am wrote:maguskwt » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:20 am wrote:Dont understand myself why agger doesnt play more often than skrtl and why skrtle is seemingly ahead of agger in the pecking order, , espe ially considering the type of football br plays at the back. These are the two decisions i dont understand from BR. First, he bought a keeper who is comfortable as feck with the ball at his feet and refuses to reconcile with one best suited for the way we play. Second, he doesnt use a cb who is best suited for the way we play ahead of one who makes careless mistakes.
But the reality is, you could end up signing a player who goes on as long as McAllister and is of a similar level at a similar age, signing a 29 year old isn't always a bad thing.
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:34 am wrote:Here's how I see our CB situation -
Lovren - looks set to be a regular
Skrtel - fighting it out with Sakho to partner Lovren
Sakho - fighting it out with Skrtel to partner Lovren
Agger - in the mix but probably 4th in line, by all accounts very unhappy and wants a move
Toure - according to the media on his way to Trabzonspor for £1.8m
Ilorri - potentially the best of the lot but still a bit young for a prem CB, gone on loan to Bordeaux
Coates - frozen out somewhat but a good pre season has reminded everyone of his talent
With Toure and Ilorri gone that leaves us with Lovren, Sakho, Skrtel, Agger and Coates, if Agger goes as well that leaves us with just 4 CB's and we have to play league games, league cup games, F.A cup games and CL games and that's without factoring in injuries or loss of form.
The best scenario for us is if Agger stays as a squad player but at 29 I can't see a player of his quality being happy just playing in the 2 domestic cup competitions.
We do have a lot of CB's at the club but if Agger follows Toure and Ilorri out the door we might be a little bit thin on the ground, 4 CB's isn't an awful lot when you are faced with the prospect of playing potentially 70+ games over 9 months and especially when your 4th CB is the relatively inexperienced Coates.
Stu the Red » Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:11 pm wrote:Kazza if you're a centre half mate it doesn't matter what side you play on, anyone who says otherwise is talking turkeys. You usually just play next to the full back you have the better understanding with.
Having played there semi professionally I can tell you it didn't bother me in the slightest what side I played, so if you're going to tell me premier league players can't adapt to playing 5 yards further over the pitch then they shouldn't be playing at that level.
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