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[Boxscarf]

Brendan Rodgers will get time and patience from me, what angered me about Kenny last season was his constant poor decision making and his ridiculous comments in the media. He continued to play Henderson on the right, he continued to play Downing and Adam, he chopped and changed Carroll constantly, when Carroll would have a good game, he'd be benched the next.

Brendan Rodgers will make mistakes, he will lose matches as Liverpool manager and maybe this season will be as difficult and as frustrating as the last two seasons, but providing he learns from his mistakes and looks to right his wrongs immediately, I won't have any problems with him. Evans, Houllier, Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny were all managers who kept on making the same mistakes over and over again.

"Insanity: Is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein.

[Benny The Noon]

Brendan Rodgers will get time and patience from me, what angered me about Kenny last season was his constant poor decision making and his ridiculous comments in the media. He continued to play Henderson on the right, he continued to play Downing and Adam, he chopped and changed Carroll constantly, when Carroll would have a good game, he'd be benched the next.

Brendan Rodgers will make mistakes, he will lose matches as Liverpool manager and maybe this season will be as difficult and as frustrating as the last two seasons, but providing he learns from his mistakes and looks to right his wrongs immediately, I won't have any problems with him. Evans, Houllier, Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny were all managers who kept on making the same mistakes over and over again.

"Insanity: Is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein.

What if he doesn't learn from his mistakes immediatly ? What is your time frame ?

[friendlyguy33]

Brendan Rodgers will get time and patience from me, what angered me about Kenny last season was his constant poor decision making and his ridiculous comments in the media. He continued to play Henderson on the right, he continued to play Downing and Adam, he chopped and changed Carroll constantly, when Carroll would have a good game, he'd be benched the next.

Brendan Rodgers will make mistakes, he will lose matches as Liverpool manager and maybe this season will be as difficult and as frustrating as the last two seasons, but providing he learns from his mistakes and looks to right his wrongs immediately, I won't have any problems with him. Evans, Houllier, Rafa, Hodgson and Kenny were all managers who kept on making the same mistakes over and over again.

"Insanity: Is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results" - Albert Einstein.

I think Kenny's downfall was not necessarily persisting with Henderson on the right but trying as with his first spell in charge in playing what he considered was the strongest eleven in the squad at any one particular time to fit each game rather than picking players in their best positions. This was why Henderson played most games on the right which didn't work, Downing sometimes was on the left or the right, sometimes Bellamy was on the left or the right and towards the end of the season there was rotation with Spearing and Shelvey.

Kenny did this in his first spell in charge I remember an away game at Villa Park in January 91 when he started with Steve Staunton on the right hand side of midfield and it didn't work the game ended 0-0. He switched it before the end with Jimmy Carter going from the left to the right but it still didn't win the game.

On the comments thing I suspect that the owners may have picked up on this in terms of the bad press Kenny got after the Suarez verdict and his reaction to the Sky reporter after the game at Old Trafford. I'm not saying that that Kenny's post match interviews cost him his job but I don't think it helped his cause.

[Boxscarf]

What if he doesn't learn from his mistakes immediatly ? What is your time frame ?

If Rodgers decides to play Downing at the start of the season and after three matches Downing has looked poor, then I'd expect Downing to be dropped. If he plays Henderson on the right and he's ineffective then I'd expect him not to continue putting Henderson on the right. It's things like that, that really annoyed me last season with Kenny. He didn't know what his best starting XI was, he didn't know where to play players, where to get the best out of players and he changed his formation around a few times last season. It was a disaster and it probably had a massive affect on our players and their inability to get the right results despite at times playing good football.

I don't expect Rodgers to make the same errors that defined Dalglish's season last season. Brendan seems to know what he wants and will ensure he gets it, that's good enough for me and as long as we make progress next season in the league then I'll be a happy bunny, I'd even welcome some more silverware should the opportunity arrive.

I expect a tough season ahead, but that's no different to any given season.

[Boxscarf]

I think Kenny's downfall was not necessarily persisting with Henderson on the right but trying as with his first spell in charge in playing what he considered was the strongest eleven in the squad at any one particular time to fit each game rather than picking players in their best positions. This was why Henderson played most games on the right which didn't work, Downing sometimes was on the left or the right, sometimes Bellamy was on the left or the right and towards the end of the season there was rotation with Spearing and Shelvey.

Kenny did this in his first spell in charge I remember an away game at Villa Park in January 91 when he started with Steve Staunton on the right hand side of midfield and it didn't work the game ended 0-0. He switched it before the end with Jimmy Carter going from the left to the right but it still didn't win the game.

On the comments thing I suspect that the owners may have picked up on this in terms of the bad press Kenny got after the Suarez verdict and his reaction to the Sky reporter after the game at Old Trafford. I'm not saying that that Kenny's post match interviews cost him his job but I don't think it helped his cause.

It also didn't help that Kenny took a team that finished strongly and went from 13th to 6th in less than five months and added a load of expensive British tat to it and as a result dramatically weakened our first team. You don't send someone as technically gifted as Aquilani out on loan and you don't sell Meireles and replace those players with a Glasgow Rangers reject and a young midfielder who was a big fish in a small pond.

Kenny's poor summer signings cost him his job. He changed too much, too quickly and as a result we regressed in terms of performances and results from his caretaker stint.

[Benny The Noon]

What if he doesn't learn from his mistakes immediatly ? What is your time frame ?

If Rodgers decides to play Downing at the start of the season and after three matches Downing has looked poor, then I'd expect Downing to be dropped. If he plays Henderson on the right and he's ineffective then I'd expect him not to continue putting Henderson on the right. It's things like that, that really annoyed me last season with Kenny. He didn't know what his best starting XI was, he didn't know where to play players, where to get the best out of players and he changed his formation around a few times last season. It was a disaster and it probably had a massive affect on our players and their inability to get the right results despite at times playing good football.

I don't expect Rodgers to make the same errors that defined Dalglish's season last season. Brendan seems to know what he wants and will ensure he gets it, that's good enough for me and as long as we make progress next season in the league then I'll be a happy bunny, I'd even welcome some more silverware should the opportunity arrive.

I expect a tough season ahead, but that's no different to any given season.

And if he continues with Downing and doesn't change what you expect him to then what ?

You seem to have already drawn your line.

It is possible that we could end up with less points than last season and a couple places down as it might take time - then what ?

[Benny The Noon]

I think Kenny's downfall was not necessarily persisting with Henderson on the right but trying as with his first spell in charge in playing what he considered was the strongest eleven in the squad at any one particular time to fit each game rather than picking players in their best positions. This was why Henderson played most games on the right which didn't work, Downing sometimes was on the left or the right, sometimes Bellamy was on the left or the right and towards the end of the season there was rotation with Spearing and Shelvey.

Kenny did this in his first spell in charge I remember an away game at Villa Park in January 91 when he started with Steve Staunton on the right hand side of midfield and it didn't work the game ended 0-0. He switched it before the end with Jimmy Carter going from the left to the right but it still didn't win the game.

On the comments thing I suspect that the owners may have picked up on this in terms of the bad press Kenny got after the Suarez verdict and his reaction to the Sky reporter after the game at Old Trafford. I'm not saying that that Kenny's post match interviews cost him his job but I don't think it helped his cause.

It also didn't help that Kenny took a team that finished strongly and went from 13th to 6th in less than five months and added a load of expensive British tat to it and as a result dramatically weakened our first team. You don't send someone as technically gifted as Aquilani out on loan and you don't sell Meireles and replace those players with a Glasgow Rangers reject and a young midfielder who was a big fish in a small pond.

Kenny's poor summer signings cost him his job. He changed too much, too quickly and as a result we regressed in terms of performances and results from his caretaker stint.

Kenny got sacked - time to move on - you got your wish.

Let's hope Rodgers signings meet your approval - we wouldn't want you to be having a go at him too early.

If he sells Aquilani or sends him on loan then what ?
Your cards are coming out very early

I fully expect you to judge Rodgers by the same standards you used to judge Kenny ! Wouldn't want you to be a hypocrite or anything

[7_Kewell]

says Benny the loon who wrote off our manager 10 mins into his tenure 

[Boxscarf]

says Benny the loon who wrote off our manager 10 mins into his tenure 

Benny is perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen on a Liverpool forum.

I never wanted Kenny sacked, so no I never got my wish. My wish to see Liverpool football club winning trophies again, including league titles and European cups.

Brendan Rodgers has inherited a bit of a mess, if we finish 5th this season under him and next summer he decides to sign utter rubbish and we finish 7th, then I'd be as annoyed at him as I was at Kenny. Would I wish him to be sacked? Not at all. I don't like it when any Liverpool manager gets sacked and that includes Roy Hodgson. It saddens me, so Benny you really ought to stop this crusade you have against my name. I'm here to debate, not engage in petty tit-for-tat insults with you.

[Benny The Noon]

Oh here comes Kewell with his wonderful insights.

Boxscarf you are only a young boy who seems to say a lot but none of it has substance.

Let's see how long your paitence lasts. You are the newer generation of fans.

[Boxscarf]

And if he continues with Downing and doesn't change what you expect him to then what ?

You seem to have already drawn your line.

It is possible that we could end up with less points than last season and a couple places down as it might take time - then what ?

He'll receive criticism from me, it's that simple.

I loved Rafa Benitez (as you probably know), but I was seething with anger with him in the aftermath of our 2007 CL final defeat to AC Milan because he made the same mistake in both finals. He took off Mascherano who had Kaka in his pocket all match and that substitution resulted in Kaka playing a through ball through to Inzaghi and AC Milan went 2-0 up. He didn't start with Hamann in the 2005 final and when he did introduce Hamann into the match, Didi kept Kaka quiet.

It's decisions like this which cost football clubs, it's imperative that managers get their tactics and teams selections right most of the time. Occasionally this won't happen, but if Rodgers is constantly getting it wrong, it's quite normal for supporters to question his decision-making on that particular subject matter.

[7_Kewell]

says Benny the loon who wrote off our manager 10 mins into his tenure 

Benny is perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen on a Liverpool forum.

I never wanted Kenny sacked, so no I never got my wish. My wish to see Liverpool football club winning trophies again, including league titles and European cups.

Brendan Rodgers has inherited a bit of a mess, if we finish 5th this season under him and next summer he decides to sign utter rubbish and we finish 7th, then I'd be as annoyed at him as I was at Kenny. Would I wish him to be sacked? Not at all. I don't like it when any Liverpool manager gets sacked and that includes Roy Hodgson. It saddens me, so Benny you really ought to stop this crusade you have against my name. I'm here to debate, not engage in petty tit-for-tat insults with you.

Benny is either:

A) crazy
B) plain dumb

Benny was the first to write off Rodgers, 10 mins after he got the job...now she's banging on (again and ahain) about how fans have no patience 

[Benny The Noon]

God here he goes again like a broken record.

Put me on ignore Kewell that way you want have to read what I say

[Boxscarf]

Boxscarf you are only a young boy who seems to say a lot but none of it has substance.

Let's see how long your paitence lasts. You are the newer generation of fans.

Your condescending nature is highly offensive. I am not a newer fan, I have supported this club for 17 years, through thick and thin, I have seen a total of six managers walk through our doors, so don't you dare call me a new generation of football supporter.

Brendan Rodgers will get my support, however I will criticise and question his decisions from time to time. I have done it with all our managers, but that doesn't mean I don't support them. I was saddened by Kenny's exit - it's ashame that he was sacked and I felt he should have had another season, but that's the way it goes. I'm excited with Rodgers as our manager and I am confident that he'll lead us to better times in the future. It won't be easy, it won't be quick and there will tough obstacles ahead, things won't always go as according to plan, but I'll still support him.

I've never called for a managers head and I never will, that's not in my nature. It is in my nature to have a good old moan though, if that offends you, tough cookie, Snorlax, tough cookie.

[7_Kewell]

God here he goes again like a broken record.

Put me on ignore Kewell that way you want have to read what I say

you're the broken record, you loon.

Give up preaching to other fans about not giving people a chance, when you're no better yourself.